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[Andy_Copland 0]

What would happen if you left it collapsed in a pack job?

Anyone done it? Im guessing it would be a fairly rough spank

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[wmw999 2,444]

It would likely be far more than brutal. I would very strongly suggest unpacking it and checking if you're not sure.

And I like fast openings.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[Andy_Copland 0]

Think it would damage just the jumper or canopy/lines itself?

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[wmw999 2,444]

Too hard for me to say. Very possibly all of them. But before they came up with ways to slow down the openings, people could only jump squares on 1-3 second delays because they were brutal.

Ask a BASE jumper how long they'd take a sliderless opening. And they don't have any aircraft speed -- out of an airplane, you're starting with aircraft speed of at least 80mph, and converting it into falling speed.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[jakee 1,489]

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Think it would damage just the jumper or canopy/lines itself?

It might just be a hard opening, or it might blow up the canopy, break your femurs, maybe even kill you.

There are no absolutes.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[Yossarian 0]

surprised this doesnt happen alot really, considering how often ive seen people forget to stow the brakes or cock the pc

[ryoder 1,590]

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What would happen if you left it collapsed in a pack job?

Anyone done it? Im guessing it would be a fairly rough spank

You don't want to know. I heard of a photographer in FL who had his neck broken as a result of packer leaving the slider collapsed. I had an opening where somehow the slider got into a fight with Spectra lines and was sliced in half with only the tape along one edge holding the two halves together. If I thought I would ever experience an opening shock like that again, I would never jump again.

Edited to add: That opening shock snapped both lower steering lines, and tore fabric in two places near upper steering line attachment points.

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[Andy_Copland 0]

I see a pattern forming here.

Slider not working properly = very bad day.

Just really wanted to hear from someone who has had problems with slider a related incident.

Ruined your day

1338

People aint made of nothin' but water and shit.

Until morale improves, the beatings will continue.

[jakee 1,489]

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surprised this doesnt happen alot really, considering how often ive seen people forget to stow the brakes or cock the pc

Well, the PC and the brakes look almost exactly the same whether they are cocked/stowed properly or not. A collapsed slider looks really different when you move it into place.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[TaylorC 0]

A packer up where i live left a slider like that and packed it up. The guy jumped it on his stilleto 120 i think it was and he said it was the hardest opening of his life and he is a big time BASE jumper.

[FlyinseivLP2 0]

I had abrisk opening on a stiletto 120 when the slider was left stowed. No damage to me or the canopy.

[Danne 0]

I did it a few years ago on a spectre, still got neck problems...

Don´t try that at home kids!

[Suavel 0]

I had an opening on my Sabre 120, it was a bit brisk but many of my openings at the time were a bit brisk(packing without finesse). I looked around to clear my airspace and moved to collapse my slider to find it completely collapsed already.

So I either packed it collapsed, or subconsciously collapsed it while I was clearing my airspace.


My guess? It was collapsed.

[recovercrachead 0]

The jumper/pilot I new did it once but he also crashed the clubs C182 because he forgot the flaps. I see a pattern.

Track high, Pull LOW!!!

[sparko 0]

I've seen it done on a tandem before (hop 300), hard opening but no damage to the canopy or the people.

[riggerrob 643]

At a bare minimum, you will pay for your massage therapist's next BMW.
At worst, I will have to sew together another ash bag.

[Eule 0]

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What would happen if you left it collapsed in a pack job?

It can potentially cost you a lot of money. From an email I wrote to a friend last summer:

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While I was pondering this, one of the jumpers came down and presented a complaint to the rigger about his opening. After some strong words, this is what transpired.

Rigger mistake #1: Forgetting to un-collapse the slider when packing.
Rigger mistake #2: Doing rigger mistake #1 on the DZO's parachute.

This earned the rigger a free unpaid vacation from packing any more parachutes that afternoon.

The DZO apparently got spanked pretty good, but landed and walked back under his own power - it wasn't like he needed medical attention.

Eule

PLF does not stand for Please Land on Face.

[Programmer 0]

The results can vary, as we've seen from the replies. Here's a safety tip: stow your brakes and un-collapse your slider before you give it to a packer or before you proceed with the pack job yourself. If you can't specifically remember doing these two things, pull it apart and make sure.

[Andy9o8 2]

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The results can vary, as we've seen from the replies. Here's a safety tip: stow your brakes and un-collapse your slider before you give it to a packer or before you proceed with the pack job yourself. If you can't specifically remember doing these two things, pull it apart and make sure.

Third thing: cock your pilot chute.