GPSJane 0 #1 October 17, 2006 Has anyone ever heard of really large rigs being made for students? The father of one of my skydiving friends wants to skydive but the student canopies are too small. The limit is 100kg and he weighs about 115kg. But he could jump if he just had a big enough canopy. I know he could jump a 250 sq ft eventually but he needs something large enough for the progression. What is the wing loading for a first-time student on a 290 sq ft anyway?Only skydivers know why the birds sing; they don't have to pack a parachute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AFFI 0 #2 October 17, 2006 This has been discussed a lot - try a search... I am not quite sure what a kg is, but I have seen more than one person loose 50+ pounds to get through the student program. Is it possible to loose 15kg? -Mykel AFF-I10 Skydiving Priorities: 1) Open Canopy. 2) Land Safely. 3) Don’t hurt anyone. 4) Repeat… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GPSJane 0 #3 October 17, 2006 1 kg = 2.2 lb This guy is not fat. He's a BIG guy. I don't think he can lose enough, that's the whole problem. I think we discussed that option already. I did a search now and ended up wading through piles of unrelated stuff - probably using the wrong search terms. Will carry on looking.Only skydivers know why the birds sing; they don't have to pack a parachute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 October 17, 2006 Here you might try this thread.... and send a PM to ATSAUBREY...he has a little experience with this issue. http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1069684#1069684 OR http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1779456#1779456 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GPSJane 0 #5 October 17, 2006 Cool thanks :)Only skydivers know why the birds sing; they don't have to pack a parachute! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgw 8 #6 October 17, 2006 I believe some people of grand stature have used gear like this: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=005&item=150046864975&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr17Hz 1 #7 October 18, 2006 This year Skydive Chicago had a graduate who had a custom "big-boy" rig built out of various parts that he bought here and there. To be honest I don't know the details, however if you were to call up ParaConcepts and ask for Kirk or Betsy Smith, I believe they were the master riggers involved in making everything happen safely and professionally. ParaConcepts Phone Number 1-815-434-6094 Fax Number 1-815-434-6095 General Email Sales@Para-Concepts.COM Technical Email Rigging@Para-Concepts.COMMatt Christenson mattchristenson@realskydiving.com http://www.RealDropzone.com - A new breed of dropzone manifest software. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigmike21 0 #8 October 18, 2006 Unless he's at 6% body fat, He could definately lose 15kg. Do the AFF in a week or two, then could go back to his regular diet and cut the extra cardio. He could probably lose 5kg in water weight before the weigh in with the proper regimine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rasmack 0 #9 October 18, 2006 A Falcon 300 main is approved for 110 kg students here in Denmark. I'm just not sure what kind of reserve we have in that rig back at the DZ...HF #682, Team Dirty Sanchez #227 “I simply hate, detest, loathe, despise, and abhor redundancy.” - Not quite Oscar Wilde... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohanW 0 #10 October 19, 2006 QuoteWhat is the wing loading for a first-time student on a 290 sq ft anyway?That depends on their exit weight. Manufacturer recommendations vary with manuf. and size (see their websites); for 254 lbs, both Flight Concepts (ZP Manta) and PD (Navigator) state min 260 sq ft. This strikes me as an absolute minimum. Big is beautiful Johan. I am. I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites