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chris_uk 0
I'm new, so excuse my ignorance, BUT, could you not have put your left toggle up and used your risers to steer/land the canopy?
Chris
Chris
yoink 321
I'm new, so excuse my ignorance, BUT, could you not have put your left toggle up and used your risers to steer/land the canopy?
Chris
No - The right toggle was still stowed in a half-brakes configuration. Simply putting the left toggle up to a full drive position would send the canopy into a right hand turn because that's the side with brakes still applied.
You're right that you can use the rear risers to steer and land the canopy, but it should be flying straight to do that - what the original poster needed was a way of holding the left toggle down about halfway to stop the turn and then somehow flying on rears... another arm might have been useful!
Additionally, a canopy is much easier to stall on rear risers and even more so when flying on rears in a braked configuration.
mnealtx 0
I'm new, so excuse my ignorance, BUT, could you not have put your left toggle up and used your risers to steer/land the canopy?
Chris
No - The right toggle was still stowed in a half-brakes configuration. Simply putting the left toggle up to a full drive position would send the canopy into a right hand turn because that's the side with brakes still applied.
You're right that you can use the rear risers to steer and land the canopy, but it should be flying straight to do that - what the original poster needed was a way of holding the left toggle down about halfway to stop the turn and then somehow flying on rears... another arm might have been useful!
Additionally, a canopy is much easier to stall on rear risers and even more so when flying on rears in a braked configuration.
The OP could have used asymmetric inputs on the risers to steer/flare... it's not impossible, is it?
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
yoink 321
It's probably flyable I'd have thought.
I've never tried it though and I certainly wouldn't suggest it to someone with little experience landing on rears, hence me not mentioning it to Chris.
I might have a play with it next time I'm in the air though...
I guess it comes down to what you think you can fly and land safely.
I've never tried it though and I certainly wouldn't suggest it to someone with little experience landing on rears, hence me not mentioning it to Chris.
I might have a play with it next time I'm in the air though...
I guess it comes down to what you think you can fly and land safely.
lauras 0
The OP could have used asymmetric inputs on the risers to steer/flare... it's not impossible, is it?
It's not impossible, but it is more difficult than people think and it sucks to find that out after flying all the way to final. Example? I'll use my friend, Seth Karp. On the last jump (I think #56?) of a long weekend training camp, Seth opened with one brake that he couldn't unstow on his Sabre. Flew with one riser & the one stuck toggle. At about 100', he lost control of the canopy & spiralled twice to his death. This was an experienced jumper with well over 1000 jumps and hyper-current from 4-way training camps.
Remember the "controlability test" from first jump course? Is it there, square, steerable & landable? If Seth had answered those questions honestly, he'd still be here with us.
mnealtx 0
Gotcha...thanks.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
bch7773 0
Thankfully I was able to pry that loop off of there with my thumbnail. Once I did, the reserve canopy leveled out, and about 10 seconds later I landed in a woman's back yard.
The main I could understand, but if you got a spinning reserve over you, the first thing is to get wings level, THEN deal with whats causing the spin.
A spinning reserve might only give you a few seconds before you smack the ground... but if you give opposite input to get level, you might now have a minute or two to see what the problem is, instead of a few seconds.
Good job pulling both handles though. Now we know the skyhook isn't 100% error-proof
MB 3528, RB 1182
Yes, the shackle was in the open position and the bridle was still on the velcro. As if the shackle wasn't properly closed and/or opened as the risers released. The reserve closing loop was also in tact so it appears Maty pulled before the cypress could fire.
The gear was all new. Toggles were still stiff, and if you're not careful, you can slip the loop past the stiff part. While annoying and in a spin, it's only one toggle in half brakes on a big main. Simply applying half brakes to the other side would have corrected the spin. And you can land in half brakes without the cutaway. I've seen it done. I'm not a rigger, just a friend who was on that jump.
Props to Maty for pulling both handles. I dislike this website but want to know where the beer is......
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