sdctlc 0 #1 August 11, 2004 OK, I know many of you out there are riggers and many have cypress units. I am curious, based on the Rantoul cypress fire talked about in incidents section about riggers and their cypress. No names are here so please answer as you see fit! Comment as you like as well. Personally I think there are going to be a number of people jumping 12 +3months cypress units as more and more hit theis time mark... Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #2 August 12, 2004 I've heard that my rigger will not close a reserve container on a rig with an outdated Cypres (He will remove a cypres and close the rig w/o the AAD at the request of the jumper.) I think if/when I become a rigger (I want to become one... in time... my goal is to get AF Tuitition Assistance or the GI bill to cover instruction/testing) I would adhere to the manufacture's Specs in order to cover my a$$. because a rigger is subject to federal laws and federal law isn't something I want to mess with. just my 0.02 cents ScottLivin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #3 August 15, 2004 My Cypres will be due for its 4 year over the coming winter and I intend to have it done within the +/- 3 mo. window, whichever works best. The whole reason I use an AAD makes me want to follow the manufacturer's maintenance schedule. As for the 12 year life cycle, I'm hoping that Airtec is doing some serious statistical studies with the retired units to determine whether or not the 12 year life is necessary. If the retired units are still performing up to par, then moving to a 12 year maintenance would seem reasonable, based on good experience. I've noticed that the Vigil AAD is now advertising NO maintenance or mandatory retirement of their units. This may be a little premature of them to be making such a broad judgement, especially with the shielding problems they've had. But I am hopeful that the new Vigil2 will do well, as a good healthy competition between the two brands will be good for all of us in the long run. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kenneth21441 0 #4 August 18, 2004 Being a rigger we are regualted to follow the law to the letter (either the manufacture of the AAD or the rig.. but really both and not including the FAA regs) while I know that there are a few of us out there that attempt to bend / or flex the letter of the law. I do not. I personally do not use a AAD while yes it could save my life if something does happen but it just gives me something else to have to control.. IE Reserve inspection and repack... I feel that if I am to misorientated to pull then it was not my day.. but generally I am ready by 3500 feet (1000 Meters) to pull and container is out by 2500... I guess having one would be a backup but my AAD is my right hand for PC deployment first... Just my two dollars worth here.... Thanks, ken..Kenneth Potter FAA Senior Parachute Rigger Tactical Delivery Instructor (Jeddah, KSA) FFL Gunsmith Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #5 August 18, 2004 The only time I cut customers any slack on Cypres maintenance is when their batteries are still strong (i.e. 6300 and less than 500 jumps), but almost 2 years old. I tell the customer the situation and remind them to return the rig to me halfway through the repack cycle for battery replacement. Nudge! Nudge! Wink! Wink! They are adults and can be responsible for their own lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
councilman24 37 #6 August 18, 2004 Service life was 10 and was moved to 12 after study. Don't look for it go any higher.I'm old for my age. Terry Urban D-8631 FAA DPRE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sdctlc 0 #7 August 19, 2004 Results are interesting: 2/3 of the total respondents (non-riggers) want the rules. I am a little suprised that only ~1/3 of the rigger respondents let the rules slide a little. I would imagine that more possibly do it on their own rigs but not on customers rigs.. I guess I should have made that an option for the riggers.... I am suprised that more would not be going over 12 years on the cypress though...... maybe not suprised at the same time though Thanks for playing Scott C."He who Hesitates Shall Inherit the Earth!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #8 August 19, 2004 About how many are now over 12 years old worldwide? Maybe will be more common when riggers are faced more with the temptation for their own rigs. I would expect there to be a market for retired units in countries with no law requiring adherence to mfg instructions. Are there any such countries that have drop zones?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
