honeyjigga 0 #1 August 31, 2006 Hi guys, Firstly i saw this film yesterday called 'Adrenaline Rush' it's all about sky diving and with wingsuits and base jumping and with wingsuits, like the bird man suit. It was like a documentary they said one of the best birdflyers in the world i think he is the one from birdman.com anyway he has made a birdman jump and covered 16KM in 4 minutes 30 seconds travelling at 200 mph. Now this is awesome, i would love to learn birdman in order to stay up that long. It's strange you can do 200mph and stay up for that long, as i heard the point of birman is to decrease free fall speed to 40 mph and then get extra free fall, but this world champion was able to stay that much longer travelling 5 x faster. That's really amazing. Now the second thing, on birdman they also showed ages ago back in 2004/05 a test to do a birdman jump from 15,000 feet, to see if we may not need to use a parachute, the professional said he has 4 methods of creating the technology in order to jump and slow yourself down just enough to land without deploying a parachute, there is a test video of this on the birdman website, now that was 2004/05 now we are in late 2006 what's going on? this sounds absolutely awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GTAVercetti 0 #2 August 31, 2006 Quote It's strange you can do 200mph and stay up for that long, as i heard the point of birman is to decrease free fall speed to 40 mph and then get extra free fall, but this world champion was able to stay that much longer travelling 5 x faster. That's really amazing. Yes, he may have been going 200mph but that was not a DOWNWARD velocity. It was FORWARD. If he was up for over 4 minutes, I am sure the downward speed was much slower.Why yes, my license number is a palindrome. Thank you for noticing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeyjigga 0 #3 August 31, 2006 Hey thanks for your reply I see now, it is all really interesting anyway do you know how this new wingsuit with no parachute is going? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #4 August 31, 2006 was that the guy who jumped from a balloon with the little jet engines attached to his legs? that was a cool video."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #5 August 31, 2006 Quoteanyway do you know how this new wingsuit with no parachute is going? It's not. Not by anyone with the funding or sense enough to figure out a proper way to do it. This is discussed ad nauseum in the wingsuit forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sockpuppet 0 #6 August 31, 2006 Wasnt Jeb trying something like this. Well before the empire state building anyway. ------ Two of the three voices in my head agree with you. It might actually be unanimous but voice three only speaks Welsh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotherGoose 0 #7 September 1, 2006 http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/safety/detail_page.cgi?ID=556 Posted Sat Dec 04 2004 By Tiffany Storrs Photos: Loic Jean-Albert Perris, CA (November 23,2004)- Pioneer B.A.S.E. jumper Jeb Corliss and Go Fast! - sponsored test pilot Luigi Cani, have paved the way for a world record landing attempt of a wing-suit—minus a parachute. Jeb and Luigi teamed up to gauge speeds and gather data to safely land Jeb’s wing-suit. Testing was critical, as no one has ever survived a landing attempt without a parachute. Jeb flew in free fall donning a parachute alongside Luigi, who was at the controls of the world’s smallest and fastest parachute—known as the ICARUS VX-39. The two were able to gather data using GPS systems attached to Luigi that tracked exact forward speeds, exact fall rate and glide angles needed for a safe landing. After two days of test piloting, Jeb Corliss said landing the wing-suit was possible as early as next year. "We found there is a definite and reasonable speed for a landing attempt sometime next summer. We’re now developing four different types of technologies to land safely—it’s very important to land with zero injuries," said Corliss after analyzing data from the test flight. Showcasing the evolution of the sport of skydiving, Luigi Cani remarked on the uniqueness of Jeb’s wing-suit project. "The testing shows the technology of the sport—nowadays we can jump a parachute that flies as fast as a person in free fall and currently we’re discovering technology to land a wing-suit without a parachute," said Cani. "If Jeb lands the wing-suit without a parachute and survives—he is going to be my hero," added Cani. don't think it ever happened thoughYou think you understand the situation, but what you don't understand, is that the situation just changed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #8 September 1, 2006 200 mph in a wingsuit? That's nothing. I can do 350 and climb from 12k to 20k in less than 20 seconds. That kind of forward speed generates an INCREDIBLE amount of lift.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damion75 0 #9 September 1, 2006 Quotehe has made a birdman jump and covered 16KM in 4 minutes 30 seconds travelling at 200 mph. 16km in 4.5 mins = 213km/h which is 133 mph... *************** Not one shred of evidence supports the theory that life is serious - look at the platypus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #10 September 1, 2006 Quote"If Jeb lands the wing-suit without a parachute and survives—he is going to be my hero," added Cani. He would not only be a hero he would have rewritten the laws of physics. You are dealing with a freefall speed of lets say 120 mph. Now the slower you go down the faster you go across. But no matter how you cut it there is still a 120 mph speed component you have to deal with. A wing suit flyer is leading with his face and chest. You can land on a steep slope or no slope at all, that energy is still going to be there at the moment of touchdown. Now there may be some mysterious element of this thing that I am missing, but landing with just a wing suit is really going to hurt. If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not landing a wing suit is he? Of course is someone wanted to do it bad enough he could do it tomorrow, no problem. He just wouldn’t be able to do it the next day.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites A2C 0 #11 September 1, 2006 Quote200 mph in a wingsuit? That's nothing. I can do 350 and climb from 12k to 20k in less than 20 seconds. That kind of forward speed generates an INCREDIBLE amount of lift. Indeed it is INCREDIBLE. 350mph horizontal speed? 24000feet per minute climb? 272.7mph vertical speed to up. hahaha... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Yossarian 0 #12 September 1, 2006 he should just strap a skateboard to his chest... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Martini 0 #13 September 1, 2006 QuoteIn Reply To 200 mph in a wingsuit? That's nothing. I can do 350 and climb from 12k to 20k in less than 20 seconds. That kind of forward speed generates an INCREDIBLE amount of lift.Smile Indeed it is INCREDIBLE. 350mph horizontal speed? 24000feet per minute climb? 272.7mph vertical speed to up. hahaha. Naturally that's with a little tailwind.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Butters 0 #14 September 1, 2006 QuoteQuote"If Jeb lands the wing-suit without a parachute and survives—he is going to be my hero," added Cani. He would not only be a hero he would have rewritten the laws of physics. You are dealing with a freefall speed of lets say 120 mph. Now the slower you go down the faster you go across. But no matter how you cut it there is still a 120 mph speed component you have to deal with. A wing suit flyer is leading with his face and chest. You can land on a steep slope or no slope at all, that energy is still going to be there at the moment of touchdown. Now there may be some mysterious element of this thing that I am missing, but landing with just a wing suit is really going to hurt. If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not landing a wing suit is he? Of course is someone wanted to do it bad enough he could do it tomorrow, no problem. He just wouldn’t be able to do it the next day. I am assuming that when they mention modification to a wingsuit that will be needed to land without a parachute they are taking into account a way to flare at landing similiar to a parachute. Otherwise you are right, it is going to hurt alot! If (according to some I should say when) this happens I guarantee you there will be a rise in fatalities. (Just look at swooping.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,072 #15 September 1, 2006 >If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #16 September 3, 2006 Quote>If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Now try speed skiing or swooping and lead with you face. I think you might find a difference. Just a guess thought. Let me know how it comes out.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #17 September 3, 2006 Quotehe should just strap a skateboard to his chest... I was under the impression that Bill Booth was involved with the project, or with designing some kind of a landing gear carriage for Jeb's chest. It would include a small drogue chute, to be deployed after touchdown and only to bring him to a full stop more quickly. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Martini 0 #18 September 4, 2006 No doubt in my mind that steep soft snow is the only way to do a w/s landing without a contraption attatched (and that even seems doubtful). 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A2C 0 #11 September 1, 2006 Quote200 mph in a wingsuit? That's nothing. I can do 350 and climb from 12k to 20k in less than 20 seconds. That kind of forward speed generates an INCREDIBLE amount of lift. Indeed it is INCREDIBLE. 350mph horizontal speed? 24000feet per minute climb? 272.7mph vertical speed to up. hahaha... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #12 September 1, 2006 he should just strap a skateboard to his chest... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #13 September 1, 2006 QuoteIn Reply To 200 mph in a wingsuit? That's nothing. I can do 350 and climb from 12k to 20k in less than 20 seconds. That kind of forward speed generates an INCREDIBLE amount of lift.Smile Indeed it is INCREDIBLE. 350mph horizontal speed? 24000feet per minute climb? 272.7mph vertical speed to up. hahaha. Naturally that's with a little tailwind.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #14 September 1, 2006 QuoteQuote"If Jeb lands the wing-suit without a parachute and survives—he is going to be my hero," added Cani. He would not only be a hero he would have rewritten the laws of physics. You are dealing with a freefall speed of lets say 120 mph. Now the slower you go down the faster you go across. But no matter how you cut it there is still a 120 mph speed component you have to deal with. A wing suit flyer is leading with his face and chest. You can land on a steep slope or no slope at all, that energy is still going to be there at the moment of touchdown. Now there may be some mysterious element of this thing that I am missing, but landing with just a wing suit is really going to hurt. If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not landing a wing suit is he? Of course is someone wanted to do it bad enough he could do it tomorrow, no problem. He just wouldn’t be able to do it the next day. I am assuming that when they mention modification to a wingsuit that will be needed to land without a parachute they are taking into account a way to flare at landing similiar to a parachute. Otherwise you are right, it is going to hurt alot! If (according to some I should say when) this happens I guarantee you there will be a rise in fatalities. (Just look at swooping.)"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,072 #15 September 1, 2006 >If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mjosparky 4 #16 September 3, 2006 Quote>If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Now try speed skiing or swooping and lead with you face. I think you might find a difference. Just a guess thought. Let me know how it comes out.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #17 September 3, 2006 Quotehe should just strap a skateboard to his chest... I was under the impression that Bill Booth was involved with the project, or with designing some kind of a landing gear carriage for Jeb's chest. It would include a small drogue chute, to be deployed after touchdown and only to bring him to a full stop more quickly. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Martini 0 #18 September 4, 2006 No doubt in my mind that steep soft snow is the only way to do a w/s landing without a contraption attatched (and that even seems doubtful). Actually I'm far more interested in figuring out how to get to 13k without an aircraft.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 3,072 #15 September 1, 2006 >If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #16 September 3, 2006 Quote>If he uses some sort of undercarriage or landing gear then he is not >landing a wing suit is he? Land in snow. Speed skiiers hit those speeds and sometimes fall - generally without serious injury. Powder would be an even better option, and a mountain slope would allow a more gradual transition during the final flare. BTW, swoopers land with shoes; I know my shoes have absorbed a lot of punishment when I slide on them for 30 feet on no-wind days. Doesn't mean it's "not landing a parachute." Now try speed skiing or swooping and lead with you face. I think you might find a difference. Just a guess thought. Let me know how it comes out.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #17 September 3, 2006 Quotehe should just strap a skateboard to his chest... I was under the impression that Bill Booth was involved with the project, or with designing some kind of a landing gear carriage for Jeb's chest. It would include a small drogue chute, to be deployed after touchdown and only to bring him to a full stop more quickly. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #18 September 4, 2006 No doubt in my mind that steep soft snow is the only way to do a w/s landing without a contraption attatched (and that even seems doubtful). Actually I'm far more interested in figuring out how to get to 13k without an aircraft.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
