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NicoNYC

Help me solve this Break off and track argument.

By NicoNYC, in Safety and Training

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tbrown    26

tbrown
It's already been said, but it sounds like you had too many inexperienced people in that group, which is why things went bad in the first place.



Too many large groups with too few experienced people are jumping, especially with turbo twins being so common nowadays. 25 years ago a friend of mine was killed and another friend seriously injured on a simple 6 way flail dive. Nobody ever got together on the formation and then somebody in freefall hit an opening canopy. No AAD's in those days either. Everybody blamed the guy who dumped and the DZO tried to make a big show of banning him from the DZ. But the truth was that of the six jumpers, only one of them had over 100 jumps. We told the DZO that that 6 way should've never been allowed to fly in te first place and that we had no problem jumping with the guy who dumped and got hurt.

As for screaming and accusing people of "trying to kill them", that's just plain unacceptable. Screaming the loudest doesn't establish te facts as to what happened, nor who was "right" or "wrong". Just last year I opened and saw somebody flying straight at me and closing fast. I was directly in his flight path, he should have seen me. No matter, I made a fast 90 degree turn on a rear riser, popped my brakes and got the hell out of his way. On the ground I very nicely asked him if he'd seen me in his path after opening. He said he didn't. I told him that I'd seen him coming straight at me and thhat I'd had to move fast to get out of his way. And that if I'd had a line twist or some other control problem, he'd probably have hit me. But I said it nicely, probably because he's a nice guy, I like him, and he seemed to be genuinely unaware of what almost happened.

Maybe you don't want to jump with the screamers anymore if your friends will still jump with you. But ALWAYS fly super defensively, because you might be the only person in the sky looking out for anyone at all.

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

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tustinr    1

tustinr
Couldn't agree more with the previous threads !

To reiterate: An experienced jumper would not shout at you - would quietly take you aside and talk to you and admit it if he were in the wrong. Besides he/she doesn't sound too experienced to me despite the jump numbers.

From what you describe it sounds like you are a pretty safe jumper to me. Just be defensive and keep yor eyes open. Learn to barrel roll and have eyes on the back of your head under canopy.

I wouldn't be jumping with these people again, not until they get their act together. Some people are just accidents waiting to happen and if they won't modify their behaviour there is not much you can do about it apart from not going up on a load with them until you feel you have more experience and want to. Its your choice.

Rich
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