European freefly licences

[skyblu3 0]

In Europe there are different licences for freefly for example the British have FF1 and FF2, French have the B4 and in Spain they have the CBT.
USPA licences don't distinguish between disciplines. Below I attached the rquirments for each license that I took off USPA's website.

My question is, what happens to USPA licence holders when they visit drop zones in Europe that require a certain proficiency in their discipline?? Empuriabrava requires each jumper to have the CBT licence if they want to freefly in groups. With USPA I am not offered such a qualification so will they not let me jump??

USPA licence requirements:
A License

1. Persons holding a USPA A license may jump without supervision, pack their own main parachute, engage in basic group jumps, perform water jumps, and must have-


a. completed 25 jumps

b. completed all requirements listed on the USPA A License Proficiency Card

c. completed five group freefall skydives involving at least two participants

d. received the signature and official stamp on the USPA A License Proficiency Card or USPA A License Progression Card (ISP)

Note: For USPA A-license registration purposes only, USPA Headquarters will accept either completed card signed by a USPA Instructor without the official stamp. The registration fee must be included.

B License

2. Persons holding a USPA B license are able to exercise all privileges of an A-license holder, perform night jumps, with 100 jumps are eligible for the USPA Coach Rating, and must have-


a. obtained a USPA A license

b. completed 50 jumps including:


(1) accumulated at least 30 minutes of controlled freefall time

(2) landed within ten meters of target center on ten jumps


c. aerial performance requirements, either:


(1) demonstrated the ability to perform individual maneuvers (left 360, right 360, backloop, left 360, right 360, backloop) in freefall in 18 seconds or less

(2) or successful completion of the planned formation(s) on ten group freefall jumps

d. documentation of live water landing training with full equipment in accordance with the procedures in the Skydiver's Information Manual

e. passed a written exam conducted by a current USPA I, I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member.

C License

3. Persons holding a USPA C license are able to exercise all privileges of a B-license holder, are eligible for the USPA Instructor rating (except USPA Tandem Instructor), participate in certain demonstration jumps, may ride as passenger on USPA Tandem Instructor training and rating renewal jumps, and must have--


a. met all current requirements for or hold a USPA B license

b. completed 200 jumps, including accumulating at least 60 minutes of controlled freefall time

c. landed within two meters of target center on 25 jumps

d. aerial performance requirements, either:


(1) during freefall, perform in sequence within 18 seconds-a backloop, front loop, left 360-degree turn, right 360-degree turn, right barrel roll and left barrel roll

(2) completed at least two points on an 8-way or larger random skydive

e. Passed a written exam conducted by a current USPA I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member.

D License


4. Persons holding a USPA D license are able to exercise all privileges of a C-license holder, are eligible for all USPA ratings, and must have-


a. met all current requirements for or hold a USPA C license

b. completed 500 jumps including accumulating at least three hours of controlled freefall time

c. made two night jumps (one solo and one in a group) with a freefall of at least 20 seconds


(1) with verification of prior night-jump training from a USPA Instructor holding a USPA D license

(2) with the advice of an S&TA, in accordance with USPA BSRs

d. Passed the written USPA D license exam conducted by a current USPA Instructor, I/E, S&TA, or USPA Board member.

[phoenixlpr 0]

How about getting a FAI CoP license card?

[bigway 4]

My experience in the states was, check in, manifest, do what the fuck you want to do... But that was a boogie.

The rules in the states compared to europe just dont exist.
You will love it over there.

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[meistwer 0]

Hi dude,

The first point here is...where do you want to jump? If it is in the UK they will be a bit more strict in the checks...unless you have more than 350-500 (your number of jumps isn't in your profile)
The French and the Spanish are a bit more relaxed. Anyway, if you are alllowed to FF in group or jump in FS dives in the US I guess that they aren't going to give you any problems.

Blue ones

[SkymonkeyONE 4]

The last time I was in the UK skydiving (1998), nobody gave me any grief as to what kind of skydiving I was going to do. Of course I had over 2500 jumps at the time....

[jakee 1,489]

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In Europe there are different licences for freefly for example the British have FF1 and FF2, French have the B4 and in Spain they have the CBT.
USPA licences don't distinguish between disciplines. Below I attached the rquirments for each license that I took off USPA's website.

My question is, what happens to USPA licence holders when they visit drop zones in Europe that require a certain proficiency in their discipline?? Empuriabrava requires each jumper to have the CBT licence if they want to freefly in groups. With USPA I am not offered such a qualification so will they not let me jump??

In the UK, if you can demonstrate the right level of proficiency (through logbook, video or maybe checkout jump) you will generally be treated the same as someone who has the UK qualification.

I don't know about Empuria but I can't imagine they will be stricter than we are.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[MattFallsFast 0]

Another consideration is INSURANCE.

Your USPA Third Party Liability is not enough for some countries (like Italy) which apparently require something like 1.5 million Euro (that's $2 million) coverage. For the AN-72 Boogie in Germany next weekend it is 1.5 million Euro as well.

By the time you learn this, however, you are already there. They'll offer you a top-up policy to cover the difference, however it isn't cheap.

Anyone know if USPA is aware our 3rd Party Liability coverage is not enough to jump in Europe?

Anyway man, just something else to consider. Once you get past manifest, jumping in Europe is amazing. I've loved every jump I've done in Europe...

[TrickyDicky 0]

Id say the USPA 3rd party liability is probably not enough to jump in the US let alone abroad. at $50k coverage, its probably the weakest in the world.

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