JoeG 0 #26 June 29, 2006 UGH. That's shitty. At the very least you could add it as unpaid on their credit report. It could come to bite them in the ass when they try to buy a car or a house. I know it's not a good solution, and I hate that we have to cater to the lowest common denominator, but it might mean recovering at least some canopies._________________________________________ "Knowledge is Power!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #27 June 30, 2006 Quote These bottom feeders are adding to your cost of doing business which gets passed on to all your customers. How much would it cost to use an escrow service? I bet you could get it under $20 per transaction if you set up a relationship with an escrow provider.My advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #28 June 30, 2006 Fortunately, this kind of thing happens very rarely & most people send the canopy back after a stern email or phone call. I can be mean when I gotta be. I've even had people tell me they forgot they had it (in trunk of car, closet, locker, etc.) when I called about late ones. I suppose that's possible, but I seriously doubt they would tolerate that excuse from their rigger when they are looking for their gear after a repack or maintenance. Imagine some rigger telling you they left your gear in the trunk of their car for 3 weeks! "Ooops! Sorry." Speaking of riggers, I had a rigger repo a canopy for me once. He knew it was a demo, but the guy using it kept telling him I said it was ok for him to still have it (LSofS). I didn't, and was actually trying to get it back. Brian Grady (my hero!) called me up, asked about it, and very nicely shipped it back to us the following week. That was my "David Leeif Brandal" happy ending story. Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #29 June 30, 2006 Jeff, I would be interested in knowing the DZ and DZO in Canada that was so helpful to you. Kudos to him/her.My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #30 June 30, 2006 I don't know how it is down there in the States, but here in Canada, at the very few dropzones that I have been to, we still have a very smalltown mentality about trusting people. Everyone leaves their gear laying all around. Kind of like leaving your door unlocked when you live out in the country. Sad, very sad.. but I think I'll be more carefull now, even at my home DZ. -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #31 July 1, 2006 We have that same mentality at DeLand. Occasionally, someone takes advantage of it, but even for our somewhat "large" DZ, it is still very rare. Thieves SUCK. I've found that by having a rig that no one wants (color), I don't have to worry. That, and it has my name on it. If the OD doesn't stop them, "Kim" on one of the 3-ring covers shoud do the trick. Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #32 July 1, 2006 That totally sucks Jeff. I sold a rig a few months ago to a guy in the phillapines. He ripped me off by using a stolen credit card to pay for it. Unfortunately some skydivers are scumbags. Stealing parachutes is the worst thing, I hope they get caught. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #33 July 1, 2006 QuoteThat totally sucks Jeff. I sold a rig a few months ago to a guy in the phillapines. He ripped me off by using a stolen credit card to pay for it. Unfortunately some skydivers are scumbags. Stealing parachutes is the worst thing, I hope they get caught. Have you tried tracking the guy thru the DZO's i the PI? If you got the serial numbers of the gear it might be traceable AFAIK not that many jumpers in the PI. Anyone know some jumpers in the PI that can help peckerhead get his stolen gear back? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #34 July 1, 2006 QuoteThat, and it has my name on it. A couple of years ago there was a complete rig stolen at Perris. It had names on it.....One side said "AirSpeed" and the other said "Dan BC." Didn't slow them down a bit.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peckerhead 0 #35 July 1, 2006 I have the address it was shipped to, the name of the person who signed for it, serial number, pictures, and a bogus phone number. I have contacted the DZ's down there but no luck so far. Anyone can PM me for details. It is also listed on this site in the stolen gear section. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #36 July 1, 2006 QuoteI have the address it was shipped to, the name of the person who signed for it, serial number, pictures, and a bogus phone number. I have contacted the DZ's down there but no luck so far. Anyone can PM me for details. It is also listed on this site in the stolen gear section. FWIW try a new thread with PI (Philipines) in the title. IMO This thread has achieved it's purpose. Thats all folks R.i.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #37 July 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteBad Boy, Bad boy, what you going do when they come for you. You just got listed on skydiving's version of AMW, you won't be able to hide. Hmmm...can I post the names of people who won't return demo's? I'm not allowed to post stolen gear in the mags, because I know who has them and the police say I can't file a report because I willingly sent it to them. There aren't many (faith in humanity restored), but with the few there are...it sure would be nice to ask for help from fellow skydivers. Mods, whatcha think? Kim, when people, demo gear, do they not sign an agreement as to when it will be returned. I thought they did. If that is the case they have effectively entered into a "rental agreement" as there is a charge to Demo gear. That being said, it may interest you to know that there is a florida state statute against failure to return rented or leased property. ( I can get you the statute # if you really are interested) Anyway, failure to return a item in excess of 300.00 is a felony in the state of Florida. You would of course have to push this issue with the lazy deland cop who shows up to take the report and tells you "its a civil matter, theres nothing I can do" because hes to lazy to write the report. Having the statute in hand and asking for the name of his supervisor will probably help. Its a last resort, but it may help get the product back to the company. If you have any questions, let me know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #38 July 2, 2006 QuoteA couple of years ago there was a complete rig stolen at Perris. It had names on it.....One side said "AirSpeed" and the other said "Dan BC." Didn't slow them down a bit No it didn't! I would venture to bet however, that it was a non-skydiver who then tried to sell it on the streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #39 July 2, 2006 QuoteQuoteA couple of years ago there was a complete rig stolen at Perris. It had names on it.....One side said "AirSpeed" and the other said "Dan BC." Didn't slow them down a bit No it didn't! I would venture to bet however, that it was a non-skydiver who then tried to sell it on the streets. Hi Betsy, Some people are dumb as a bag of rocks.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbarnhouse 0 #40 July 2, 2006 Hello sweet you!QuoteSome people are dumb as a bag of rocks. I think you may have insulted the rocks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloudi 0 #41 July 2, 2006 I hear ya, but sponsored gear is "cool." Mine, although I love it, is not "cool" and most people wouldn't look twice at it (unless they are or used to be in the military). I remember hearing about that. Did he ever get it back? Kim Watch as I attempt, with no slight of hand, to apply logic and reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #42 July 2, 2006 QuoteHello sweet you!QuoteSome people are dumb as a bag of rocks. I think you may have insulted the rocks! My apologies to the rocks. It was unintentional. I think I love you. Its not too often I get called sweet. (be still my heart)My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #43 July 2, 2006 QuoteI hear ya, but sponsored gear is "cool." Mine, although I love it, is not "cool" and most people wouldn't look twice at it (unless they are or used to be in the military). I remember hearing about that. Did he ever get it back? If you like the gear it must be "cool". Last time I talked to Dan it was still gone. For some reason that really pisses me off more than if it had been my gear. My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
