shaiziel 0 #1 June 28, 2006 I saw it in a video, and I don't have a link to it right now but it's pretty easy to explain. Simple as I can get it: two jumpers under canopy, linked up by the legs downplaning towards the ground breaking apart before landing. I have just been trying to visualize how in the hell you can get linked up like that and I can't see how it happens. Anyone care to elaborate?---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 June 28, 2006 Some people use death straps, some people lock their legs. Death straps are called that for a reason. As for how to do it, I would HIGHLY recommend you hook up with an experienced CReW flier to learn this. Screwing this maneuver up gets kind of exciting kind of quick. Its not something to be learned by reading.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #3 June 28, 2006 QuoteSome people use death straps, some people lock their legs. Death straps are called that for a reason. And some people combine both by using a death trap leg lock...Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #4 June 28, 2006 QuoteSome people use death straps, some people lock their legs. Death straps are called that for a reason. As for how to do it, I would HIGHLY recommend you hook up with an experienced CReW flier to learn this. Screwing this maneuver up gets kind of exciting kind of quick. Its not something to be learned by reading. I saw Chris Martin do this (it's a downplain, yes?) w/ another dude a couple times in tullahoma, both w/ high performance canopies... very cool and scary to watch... they'd hook their legs, dive toward the ground, rotate a couple of times, release, fly their pattern, hook it, swoop and land. impressive as hell but as you say, not for the faint of heart. I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #5 June 28, 2006 so how do you actually do it? (dont worry, im not goin to try, but like the original poster im curious, as even with end cells touching the jumpers are still separated by a canopy width) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaiziel 0 #6 June 28, 2006 Exactly. Watching videos it looks like the two would have to be flying side by side and toggle one way then the other to swing towards each other, and hopefully lock legs. That's the only thing I can imagine working.---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #7 June 28, 2006 >I have just been trying to visualize how in the hell you can get linked up like that . . . Do a regular CRW dock to a two-stack, slide down the lines, grab the other guy and separate your canopies. Voila - downplane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaiziel 0 #8 June 28, 2006 Oh see, that's not near as bad as I pictured. Seriously though. Cool stuff.---------------------------------------- 6.8% - Almost there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #9 June 28, 2006 never thought id like crw but its becoming more appealing, as long as its nice and high and ive got bowie knives strapped to every limb do those knives tend to get used much? they are quite conspicuous, and obviously very handy in the right circumstances, but to those circumstances pop up alot? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #10 June 29, 2006 Quote never thought id like crw but its becoming more appealing I really have no desire to go turn rotations or be in bigways, but learning CReW has taught me more about canopy control in fewer jumps then just about anything else I've seen. Just some food for thought.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waltappel 1 #11 June 29, 2006 CRW rocks!!!!! I'm really surprised there are not a lot more people doing it. Walt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 June 29, 2006 Maybe it has to do with Lightning landings? Joking aside, it's something that I look forward to trying a little later down the road...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yjumpinoz 0 #13 June 29, 2006 I highly recommend trying one with appropriate parachutes and someone experienced. We also used to do a lot of dragplanes where you have a down plane at the bottom of a four stack. CRW parachutes have come a long way.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yossarian 0 #14 June 29, 2006 what makes them so different? (in a nutshell) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #15 June 29, 2006 7 cell, low aspect ratio, nose down trim. Rock stable in a bump and can take a knock. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kkeenan 14 #16 June 29, 2006 Quotewhat makes them so different? (in a nutshell) They are also very strong, with reinforcement added to withstand all of the pulling and yanking on them that occurrs in some formations. Just a few weeks ago, we had a "Downplane Fest" at SD Temple in Texas. Normal downplanes were the tamest thing done there. There were triple downplanes (using straps), dragplanes, and some stunts that we don't even have names for. It was CRW at its best. Kevin_____________________________________ Dude, you are so awesome... Can I be on your ash jump ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yjumpinoz 0 #17 June 29, 2006 Construction, deployment, pilot chute.....etc. We just used to throw together whatever was on the load. And sometimes the parachutes didn't play well with others. I have a few reserve rides to prove that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #18 June 29, 2006 Here's a pic I took a few weeks ago....can see the parabatics(spel?) grip fairely well....PM me if you want the full res version to see it better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #19 June 29, 2006 CRW does rock... Walt has been key in getting me very interested in this discipline. It's quite infectious really and not nearly as scary as I thought it to be! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #20 June 29, 2006 CRW is cool to watch (I've not done any yet but been briefed... so could be doing some simple stuff soon) BUT... on Paragliders (Much more material!!).. it's SuperCool...clicky . (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #21 June 29, 2006 QuoteCRW is cool to watch (I've not done any yet but been briefed... so could be doing some simple stuff soon) BUT... on Paragliders (Much more material!!).. it's SuperCool...clicky . dayum! I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #22 June 30, 2006 Actually death straps are no big deal if you have properly designed ones. I mainly refer to them as that to scare the freefallers! I don't do leg locks either normally. I find the easiest way is to have the other guy climb down my lines, I throw my legs up between his, he holds on, and I do a 180 degree toggle turn. Voila - a downplane... w Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
