Kimblair13 0 #1 June 26, 2006 If you have to land downwind, don't be afraid. It's gonna hurt alot less than trying to whip a 180 and eating the dirt. That's all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #2 June 26, 2006 "Girl you know it's true! (Oo oo oo I love you...)" -milli vanilli I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
psipike02 0 #3 June 26, 2006 Quote "Girl you know it's true! (Oo oo oo I love you...)" -milli vanilli HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.....micro you just made my day man....i'm cracking up in my office right nowPuttin' some stank on it. ----Hellfish #707---- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #4 June 26, 2006 I guess this means you saw someone do it recently (or else you did it...) -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #5 June 26, 2006 Is that you in the middle? http://www.eugeneskydivers.com/experiencedskydivers.html .My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #6 June 26, 2006 Quote Is that you in the middle? LOL!!!! NO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #7 June 26, 2006 Quote I guess this means you saw someone do it recently (or else you did it...) Wasn't me and didn't see the person do it. But did see the aftermath in the hospital this morning. I'm not scurred to land downwind Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #8 June 27, 2006 I harp on this. If a person is afraid to land downwind than they need to upsize. Flat turns are great and everyone needs to know how to do them but if one can't land downwind then they are on the wrong equipment!"We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gofast_ER 0 #9 June 27, 2006 if your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind I may not agree with what you have to say but i'll defend to the death your right to say it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydivermom 0 #10 June 27, 2006 I had a couple of downwind landings when I was still on student status. Only got chewed out on one of them - not because it was downwind, but because I stood up the landingMrs. WaltAppel All things work together for good to them that love God...Romans 8:28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #11 June 27, 2006 QuoteIf a person is afraid to land downwind than they need to upsize. Amen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #12 June 27, 2006 QuoteIf you have to land downwind, don't be afraid. It's gonna hurt alot less than trying to whip a 180 and eating the dirt. That's all. here here... downwinders are just fine with me... and much better then the alternative...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #13 June 27, 2006 Quote if your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind Sure, but you would hope that if someone has the experience to be on a wing like that, then they have the experience to make landing directions choices much more efficently then a 20 jump wonder. Then again at my DZ when the wind is that high it tends to get very gusty and quite variable in direction, those of us jumping highly loaded wings tend to sit out to wait for better conditions anyways.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #14 June 27, 2006 Quoteif your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind I've seen it done in steady 30mph winds, on a smaller canopy than that, and, he stood it up if I remember correctly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #15 June 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteif your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind I've seen it done in steady 30mph winds, on a smaller canopy than that, and, he stood it up if I remember correctly. Ok - so if you are going downwind at 30 MPH - and you turn your canopy completely "off" - you are still going 30 MPH.... I wanna see someone land a canopy and run out a 30 MPH landing... But I rather downwind PLF it at 30 than dive into the ground on a low panic turn... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strop45 0 #16 June 27, 2006 Understood, a downwind landing is a better choice than a low 180 degree crash into the ground, but is "Don't turn low" always true?. What if the alternative is to fly into something bigger and tougher than you or the ground ? e.g. a powerline, another skydiver, a car, a fence etc.The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." -- Albert Einstein Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyliber 0 #17 June 27, 2006 I'm guessing that is up there with Remember to Flare and Legs together and PLF.... which I saw a first timing AFF Level 1 student forget to do..... I was 100 feet away and I felt it. The guy broke his leg! -=+ Skyliber, Disynthegrate, & Nucleaire +=- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #18 June 27, 2006 I saw a 20mph butt slide landing. It was very impressive. And gives a new meaning to skidmarks (in- and outside ones). It can be done. Guy even managed to make it look semi-safe, although I am told the bruises on his behind indicate it was somewhat "physically intensive". Re: not turning low. Right on. It can get ugly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyliber 0 #19 June 27, 2006 Quote It was very impressive. And gives a new meaning to skidmarks (in- and outside ones). there is a TI that loves giving 'skidmark' landings to first timers! Well, that's what I've come to think. Luckily, I didn't get him (or her ) -=+ Skyliber, Disynthegrate, & Nucleaire +=- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reginald 0 #20 June 27, 2006 QuoteQuoteif your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind I've seen it done in steady 30mph winds, on a smaller canopy than that, and, he stood it up if I remember correctly. Our Italian friend? Naw when I’ve seen him take down winders above 25 MPH he had some less than artistic slides going on. "We've been looking for the enemy for some time now. We've finally found him. We're surrounded. That simplifies things." CP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dharma1976 0 #21 June 27, 2006 QuoteIf you have to land downwind, don't be afraid. It's gonna hurt alot less than trying to whip a 180 and eating the dirt. That's all. listen to this so that you dont do stupid stuff and unload your lines http://archive-b02.libsyn.com/andueMh2bXaWeZR2l3mdqJelZXKX/podcasts/skydiveradio/sr14_11_08_05s.mp3 Davehttp://www.skyjunky.com CSpenceFLY - I can't believe the number of people willing to bet their life on someone else doing the right thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justinb138 0 #22 June 27, 2006 Quote Our Italian friend? Naw when I’ve seen him take down winders above 25 MPH he had some less than artistic slides going on. Yep. less than artistic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #23 June 27, 2006 QuoteQuote if your on a xchaos 87 at 175 pounds and the wind is doing 25-30 mph then yes....be very afraid to land downwind Sure, but you would hope that if someone has the experience to be on a wing like that, then they have the experience to make landing directions choices much more efficently then a 20 jump wonder. Then again at my DZ when the wind is that high it tends to get very gusty and quite variable in direction, those of us jumping highly loaded wings tend to sit out to wait for better conditions anyways. Like in January when we all sat out.... that was a bit TOO gusty for my taste...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #24 June 27, 2006 QuoteLike in January when we all sat out.... that was a bit TOO gusty for my taste... Exactly. We won't tell a jumper NO directly in those cases, but we'll work with the jumper and educate them why the wise decision is to stay on the ground. They tend to go, "gee, I think I'll sit and wait as well" while patting themselves on the back for being such a smart and safety concious low time jumper (which is exactly our goal).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tetra316 0 #25 June 28, 2006 QuoteQuote I guess this means you saw someone do it recently (or else you did it...) Wasn't me and didn't see the person do it. But did see the aftermath in the hospital this morning. I'm not scurred to land downwind Who was it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
