cocheese 0 #26 May 25, 2006 I quit logging regularly after 100 jumps and totally after 500 jumps. I don't take the time to look back at log books or old pictures etc. There is so much to the future that i rarely even take pictures, knowing that i wont take the time to ever look at them etc. After getting a D license i have nothing to prove to be at a boogie or on a special jump. If they don't trust me and my percieved abilities, then i don't want to be on the dive. It's never been a problem getting to jump anywhere without a log book. ( since B license) Sometimes i see valuable dz time lost to those writing in their little books. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #27 May 25, 2006 QuoteI had to BUY a logbook so I could get into the Convention last year! See it's not what you know it's who you know or in some cases who you do. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #28 May 25, 2006 Quote<<< I'll usually hit up a few of the guys I've jumped with during the day to sign my jumps...>>> ?!? You have a C-lic and still have someone endorse your log? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #29 May 25, 2006 Pack first. Then make rough notes about the dive in a small pocket notebook. Then at the end of the weekend, in the comfort of my home, I transfer the notes into real log book entries, with detail added from my ProTrac. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #30 May 25, 2006 I had to show 500 signed jumps in my logbook to get my D license application signed. The S&TA actually counted unsigned jumps until he reached enough to prove I couldn't have 500 signed. So I went around and got signatures. Of course I have a lot of them that say "Fuck (S&TA's name)" and "(S&TA) likes little boys" and stuff like that. Couldn't believe he didn't spot any of em the second time around. I pack first... usually do the logbook at the end of the day, sometimes in between jumps if I happen to think of it. Sometimes it's hard to know how long I'll have before my next load, so I like to be ready to jump before doing anything that can wait. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #31 May 25, 2006 Quote?!? You have a C-lic and still have someone endorse your log?yes... cause I still don't have a D-lic... and on the off chance that Someday I might chose to get some kind of instructional or Pro rating... not only that... its nice to get signatures from people I jump with.Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Broke 0 #32 May 25, 2006 It is also fun to see what smart ass comments they will leave youDivot your source for all things Hillbilly. Anvil Brother 84 SCR 14192 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #33 May 25, 2006 QuoteIt is also fun to see what smart ass comments they will leave you or what kind of smart ass responses I can come up with... i.e. my only cessna jump so far log goes something like this: One year in the sport of skydiving w/o ever jumping out of a cessna: $15,000 1st chance to do a 2-way out of a Cessna:$19 Not briefing the connected exit on the ground before taking off:$0 The look on Andy's face when I left the step without him: Priceless... and I got Andy (aka Popsjumper) to sign that one too... Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccsayre 0 #34 May 26, 2006 Wow! has somebody ever put a "smart ass comment" in your logbook? I've had all my jumps logged & signed and none contain a "smartass comment" at over 10 different DZ's. I consider logging at this point of my S/D career important and so do the people who sign it. Theres no place for "smart ass comments in a logbook. That should have no influence on manitaining it or not. just my opinion... Luck is Preparation meeting Opportunity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #35 May 26, 2006 Sure.. no place for smart-ass comments in skydiving. And there is no place for beer at the DZ either. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ccsayre 0 #36 May 26, 2006 What I said/meant was smart ass comments in a log book, not in general. I look forward to fun stuff at the D/Z. Sorry if I wasn't clear... Luck is Preparation meeting Opportunity Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FFlyer 0 #37 May 26, 2006 I log at the end of the day or if I jump saturday/sunday then ill only log at the end of the weekend. My log entries only cover the basics including what type of jump it was and who i jumped with. The only exeption is if I do something really cool or something for the first time. Like a first tube jump, rodeo or whatever. Typical log entry: 3way FF - name1, name2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #38 May 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteLater on I think you will regret this. I have never heard a jumper say "I sure am glad I didn't bother logging my jumps back then"! Why? So I can get patch from USPA? Woohoo!! After a certain point in your jumping career you logbooks are only important to you. They are a record of the fun you’ve had and the friends you have made. If you notice the ones that say it doesn’t matter now and won’t matter later have less then 10 years jumping. In most cases they are right, they are tourist and won’t be around long enough for the memories to fade. For those that are around 20 years and a couple thousand jumps down the line logbooks are great for recalling some good times and good friends, both lost and living. Plus there are those that see “I don’t bother logging” as a red flag that means, “I am claiming more jumps then I have”.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karenmeal 0 #39 May 26, 2006 Ok, I'm a tourist I guess. But my boyfriend has 11 years in the sport and 4,000 jumps and he feels the same way that I do, but maybe he is just a tourist too. I've got great ways to remember my old friends (lost and living). The ones that are living, I keep in touch with and let them know that I appreciate them. The friends that I've lost I honor by continuing to talk about them and remember them. I also jump the rig of a good friend that I lost last year. That helps me remember him a lot more than just seeing his signature in a log book. Some people like to record things, some don't. But it isn't a sign of who is or is not a tourist. And not writing down my jumps has nothing to do with my honesty. I would never lie to someone about how many jumps I have. My number of jumps is as accurate as someone who writes down all of their jumps diligently in a logbook. "Life is a temporary victory over the causes which induce death." - Sylvester Graham Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattjw916 2 #40 May 26, 2006 Yeah, I know a guy whose D-lic is in the low thousands somewhere and he only logs one jump per year for "currency" reasons so DZs don't give him shit for not logging. I think he has over 5k jumps and probably over 30 years in sport now so obviously opinions vary on the subject. Me, I have a pile of DV tapes to remember my jumps. I log sporadically now, usually right before I go to a boogie or foreign DZ. I keep better track of my tunnel time than my jump numbers, lol.NSCR-2376, SCR-15080 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matt1215 0 #41 May 28, 2006 QuoteQuote?!? You have a C-lic and still have someone endorse your log?yes... cause I still don't have a D-lic... and on the off chance that Someday I might chose to get some kind of instructional or Pro rating... not only that... its nice to get signatures from people I jump with. Makes sense. I was of the belief that once someone gets their license, they can sign their own jumps, but I guess that only applies if you're not going for higher licenses or for ratings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #42 May 28, 2006 Quote It's never been a problem getting to jump anywhere without a log book. ( since B license) I showed Perris Valley my D-license and 4 gazillion jumps and they said "I need to see your logbook." WTF? I don't take it when I travel so they actually called my home DZO to see if I was current. Pretty dumb, since any idiot with a pen can produce a logbook to "prove" he's current (and I've seen it done just that way.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #43 May 28, 2006 Quote Plus there are those that see “I don’t bother logging” as a red flag that means, “I am claiming more jumps then I have”. I've seen that more than a few times. I still log each jump, using the little student style log books. I don't write a lot of stuff, but date, altitude, ff time, and basic type of jump (rw, ffly, tandem, instructional) TM's are required to have a certain number of jumps each year and not too long of a gap between jumps. A log book is the accepted way of recording that info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tbrown 26 #44 May 28, 2006 Logbooks will keep, ripstop won't. Plus it's more expensive than paper. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites klingeme 1 #45 June 1, 2006 What's a log? Some kind of packing weight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wightout 0 #46 June 1, 2006 We are fairly close in jump numbers, and at this point, each and every jump is an accomlishment. But, we also need to jump as often as possible. So, I pack first (I pack myself). You need to be doing as many jumps as you can and need to get on the next available load! There's time to log at the end of the day. For me, my log book is saying, I did okay, badly, great, but I landed and survived. I have some smartass comments in mine made by my friend I jump with. Those are important to me too. Skydiving is so many things, it's serious, it's a challenge, but MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S FUN. Go over your jumps with the "up jumpers" you jump with. Get advice, get training, get coach jumps! To borrow a line from Squeak...MY LIFE ROCKS!! HOW'S YOURS??!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites peek 21 #47 June 1, 2006 Oh, goody, since so many of you have already hijacked this thread and are debating whether logging jumps is important... I'll take this opportunity to tell all you worthless maggots that don't log your jumps... Ok, now that I got that out of my system... :) I kinda think that when you get older you will enjoy going through those logbooks with found memories. Once in a while I find information in those logbooks that can't be found anywhere else. And it sure is a nice polite way of showing your experience and currency at an event. And now to answer the original question: I am often jumping with a student, so I start packing while waiting for them to debrief, then I get my logbook and fill it out while they are filling out theirs in prepration for my comments and signature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #48 June 2, 2006 Quote I kinda think that when you get older you will enjoy going through those logbooks with found memories. Once in a while I find information in those logbooks that can't be found anywhere else. And it sure is a nice polite way of showing your experience and currency at an event. . I'm now starting to wonder if I'm the only person that writes personal notes about my mistakes and successes in my logbook? I like looking back even just 3 weeks ago and seeing my frustration on a particular canopy because I couldn't stand it in the wind, reading my various flare levels, and finally writing down what works. It refreshes my brain when it comes time to drive to the DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DottieBear 0 #49 June 2, 2006 I log first because 1. I pack REALLY REALLY slow. LOL. I have only packed about 5 times, so it takes me forever. 2. Packing takes a LOT of thought and focus for me, so I would definitely lose some of the detail about my jump while I was doing it 3. its way for fun for me to relive the skydive immediately! I always log in detail, because its not uncommon for me to have a few weeks between jumps, and so much happens in that time, that I often forget the things I was working on. By reading my logs before I go to the dz, I remember what I improved on and what I needed more work on, and it puts me back in the mindset I was when I left the dz(or at least close to it). I just got my A, and thus, just started jumping with friends more, and thus just started getting smart ass comments ;) I love them!~Dottie “Everything looks perfect from far away.” Postal Service, Such Great Heights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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JohnMitchell 16 #42 May 28, 2006 Quote It's never been a problem getting to jump anywhere without a log book. ( since B license) I showed Perris Valley my D-license and 4 gazillion jumps and they said "I need to see your logbook." WTF? I don't take it when I travel so they actually called my home DZO to see if I was current. Pretty dumb, since any idiot with a pen can produce a logbook to "prove" he's current (and I've seen it done just that way.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #43 May 28, 2006 Quote Plus there are those that see “I don’t bother logging” as a red flag that means, “I am claiming more jumps then I have”. I've seen that more than a few times. I still log each jump, using the little student style log books. I don't write a lot of stuff, but date, altitude, ff time, and basic type of jump (rw, ffly, tandem, instructional) TM's are required to have a certain number of jumps each year and not too long of a gap between jumps. A log book is the accepted way of recording that info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #44 May 28, 2006 Logbooks will keep, ripstop won't. Plus it's more expensive than paper. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
klingeme 1 #45 June 1, 2006 What's a log? Some kind of packing weight? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wightout 0 #46 June 1, 2006 We are fairly close in jump numbers, and at this point, each and every jump is an accomlishment. But, we also need to jump as often as possible. So, I pack first (I pack myself). You need to be doing as many jumps as you can and need to get on the next available load! There's time to log at the end of the day. For me, my log book is saying, I did okay, badly, great, but I landed and survived. I have some smartass comments in mine made by my friend I jump with. Those are important to me too. Skydiving is so many things, it's serious, it's a challenge, but MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S FUN. Go over your jumps with the "up jumpers" you jump with. Get advice, get training, get coach jumps! To borrow a line from Squeak...MY LIFE ROCKS!! HOW'S YOURS??!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peek 21 #47 June 1, 2006 Oh, goody, since so many of you have already hijacked this thread and are debating whether logging jumps is important... I'll take this opportunity to tell all you worthless maggots that don't log your jumps... Ok, now that I got that out of my system... :) I kinda think that when you get older you will enjoy going through those logbooks with found memories. Once in a while I find information in those logbooks that can't be found anywhere else. And it sure is a nice polite way of showing your experience and currency at an event. And now to answer the original question: I am often jumping with a student, so I start packing while waiting for them to debrief, then I get my logbook and fill it out while they are filling out theirs in prepration for my comments and signature. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #48 June 2, 2006 Quote I kinda think that when you get older you will enjoy going through those logbooks with found memories. Once in a while I find information in those logbooks that can't be found anywhere else. And it sure is a nice polite way of showing your experience and currency at an event. . I'm now starting to wonder if I'm the only person that writes personal notes about my mistakes and successes in my logbook? I like looking back even just 3 weeks ago and seeing my frustration on a particular canopy because I couldn't stand it in the wind, reading my various flare levels, and finally writing down what works. It refreshes my brain when it comes time to drive to the DZ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DottieBear 0 #49 June 2, 2006 I log first because 1. I pack REALLY REALLY slow. LOL. I have only packed about 5 times, so it takes me forever. 2. Packing takes a LOT of thought and focus for me, so I would definitely lose some of the detail about my jump while I was doing it 3. its way for fun for me to relive the skydive immediately! I always log in detail, because its not uncommon for me to have a few weeks between jumps, and so much happens in that time, that I often forget the things I was working on. By reading my logs before I go to the dz, I remember what I improved on and what I needed more work on, and it puts me back in the mindset I was when I left the dz(or at least close to it). I just got my A, and thus, just started jumping with friends more, and thus just started getting smart ass comments ;) I love them!~Dottie “Everything looks perfect from far away.” Postal Service, Such Great Heights Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
