SWATcop 0 #1 May 31, 2006 I am quite sure this has been posted here at some time before and probably a lot of you have seen it. I was wondering if anyone knows if this guy just held on to the rig during deployment? It looks like it but its hard to tell. http://us.video.aol.com/video.index.adp?mode=1&stream=http%3A//www.videotiger.com/vids/skydiving.wmv&partner=singfish&atturl=http%3A//www.videotiger.com&player=wm&scroll1=&scroll2=Skydiving&referer=http%3A//aolsearch.aol.com/aol/searchKevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #2 May 31, 2006 There was a wire running up his arm. Still a rather dangerous stunt mind even if he was wired to the rig - if it got away from them or malfunctionned in any way he would have been in a very very bad position. There have been several true chuteless jumps done in the past however where the jumper exited entirely seperate to his canopy and was passed it in freefall by another jumper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #3 May 31, 2006 Yikes!Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #4 May 31, 2006 ya and they had a extra chute for each one of the boulders that he calls his balls.if fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,314 #5 May 31, 2006 Yup, Mr. Cole goes by "Chuteless" on here and can be PM'd.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beatnik 2 #6 May 31, 2006 If I remember correctly that was an old Javelin ad. He had a special harness under his clothes. If the video was higher quality you can actually see it run up his arm.Cheers, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airfury17 0 #7 May 31, 2006 I am almost positive there was no tricks to this. Greg Gasson I believe is his name and On Good Stuff the DVD I am sure he does not have anything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #8 May 31, 2006 From Greg Gasson: "I had a harness on underneath my jumpsuit that attached to the B-12 snaps on my Javelin. There is an article describing the stunt in further detail in the April 94 issue of Parachutist." and "Sun Path made special mods to my rig so I had a cutaway handle and a reserve handle on the legstraps for my rig. I am a master rigger and I consulted with three other master riggers, the DZ owner and the S&TA. As for the FAA I called them before doing the stunt and asked them if I needed any special paperwork for jumping an experimental harness. I was told that since I was a master rigger and if I was the only one who was jumping it then I did not need to get any paperwork. I may be foolish, but I'm not stupid." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #9 May 31, 2006 More from Greg Gasson: "This is something I wrote a few years ago for Parachutist and Jason Bell used it as a basis for his article on my "chuteless" jump. I think it appeared in the April 94 issue of Parachutist. Joe Jennings reshot the stunt on 35mm film to be used in his upcoming video called "Good Stuff". The Madness to the Method Strangely enough it did not seem unusual the first time I jumped out of a plane without a parachute on my back. You probably think that I am psychotic, but I will try to convince you otherwise. In October of 1991 I met Mike McGowan who had just moved to my home DZ, Skydive Arizona. I had a video of myself hanging upside down from the legstraps of my rig by my feet. Mike liked it enough that he wanted to get some footage of it for his video "On the Fun Side". After he finished up the video he asked me to start thinking of something for his next project. My original idea was to jump out of the plane without wearing the rig on my back and then put it on in freefall. So I called up the FAA and asked them if I need any paperwork to build an experimental harness. They told me as long as I was a master rigger and was the only one jumping the gear that I didn't need any. The next few months I kept running through the stunt in my mind and it just seemed to be lacking something. Then I was going over it again and thought of a twist to the stunt that would really raise some eyebrows. What if I did not put the rig on at all but instead deployed the main while holding onto the rig. Now that I had an image of what I wanted the stunt to be I had to figure out how to do it safely. The first thing I needed to do was to design a harness that could be concealed under my jumpsuit. I went over to Bob Sprague's and he and I spent about an hour discussing various types of harnesses and what we came up with was very similar to a climber's seat harness with extensions that could be run up through the sleeves of my jumpsuit. The harness was built out of type 7 webbing. At the end of the extensions I put a large 3-ring. The 3-ring attached to both of the B-12 snaps on my rig which made an even load bearing point for attachment. I did not want to attach it to just one side since it would probably cause a turn after deployment. Since I was attached to the B-12's I needed to be able to cut away and deploy my reserve. I made some modifications to the rig to do this. The best way to keep the rig stable in freefall would be similar to an AFF dive with the rig as the "student". For the first attempt I wore another rig so that we could get an idea of how the jump would go. My partner in crime was front float, the rig was center and I was was rear float. The exit went well and the rig was very stable in freefall. At 7000 ft I reached for the pullout and deployed the main. The opening was fine and the rest of the jump went without a hitch. Now it was time to do it for real. I felt like a first jump student all over again. I got some very strange looks from out-of-town skydivers on the ride to altitude who didn't know what we were doing. Ready, Set, Go!!! We exited without a problem, leveled out and geeked the camera. My fall rate was a bit slower without the weight of the rig on my back. At 7000 ft I deployed. The opening was nice and soft. I kicked my legs up and put them through the legstraps up to my knees. Since the harness is attached to the B-12's and runs under my jumpsuit I had to take off the left side of my jumpsuit so that my left arm was free. When I got my arm free I reached up with both hands and grabbed the harness under the cutaway and reserve handles. I pulled myself up so that my legs were all the way through the legstraps but my body was still outside the container. I unthreaded the lateral adjustment on the right side of my rig so that I could lift the back of the rig open and squirm into the rest of the harness. Not too bad for the the first try. On the second jump the right brake line unstowed on deployment so the canopy was spinning to the left. No problem. Since I'm not in the harness it is easier to hang all of my weight on one side in order to slow the spin down. Then I just unstowed the left brake and all was well. We made several more jumps without any problems. I met Derek Thomas from Sun Path at the 1993 World Meet in Eloy and he was very interested in the stunt I was doing with Mike. I asked him if he could help build a rig with better modifications than the one I had built. So we sat down one afternoon and I showed him what I had done to my rig and asked him for his suggestions. He came up with a much cleaner method of cutting away and deploying the reserve than I had designed. It's great when you can talk to the owner of the company directly. I also met John LeBlanc from PD who was kind enouhg to let me borrow some canopies for the stunt. In order to get footage of me climbing back into the rig I jumped by myself with the rig on, then climbed out of the harness container and then back in again. On the first jump with the new Javelin I did not loosen the legstraps enough. When it came time to climb back in I could not get my feet through the legstraps. The previous jumps I was barefoot to make this part easier but it was to cold to jump without shoes. I landed outside of my container hanging from the legstraps. Fortunately I was prepared for such fun. I was using a PD-235 7-cell. I landed in full flight with no flare and did a PLF. Now this was a great jump to add this to my NSTIW (no shit there I was) stories. We made seven jumps where I climbed out then back in again. We made thirteen jumps where I exited without the rig on my back. On two of the jumps I had such soft, slow openings that I am convinced that I could have hung on without using a harness. So for this particular stunt I was out of my harness twenty times. On the stunt for the "On the Fun Side" video I climbed out of the harness ten times. I've got about thirty jumps now with my body completely outside the harness container. Don't worry the next stunt will be better than this one. Blue Skies" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katherine 0 #10 May 31, 2006 so when he is under canopy, climbing in and out, is he attached to anything?Leeds University Skydiving Club www.skydiveleeds.co.uk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #11 June 1, 2006 It tripped me out the first couple times I watched it on "Good Stuff", but after awhile I became suspicious because of the long sleeves. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SWATcop 0 #12 June 1, 2006 That was very good, thanks for posting.Kevin Muff Brother #4041 Team Dirty Sanchez #467 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inthebuff 0 #13 June 1, 2006 Saw a stunt in the 80's on a UK TV show called Just Amazing. A guy exited an aircraft and at the same time they threw his Rig out of another aircraft. The Rig was attached to what looked like a big old cooking pot that was weighted to match his fall rate. He dived to pin on the pot and attached himself to it using the anchor points a bit like what a tandem master uses. Looked real to me. Now he realy was a Crazy Mother F****r.*********************************** Fly Like Zie Eagle, Not Like Zie Chicken ! Good advice from an instructor I know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #14 June 1, 2006 QuoteSaw a stunt in the 80's on a UK TV show called Just Amazing. A guy exited an aircraft and at the same time they threw his Rig out of another aircraft. The Rig was attached to what looked like a big old cooking pot that was weighted to match his fall rate. He dived to pin on the pot and attached himself to it using the anchor points a bit like what a tandem master uses. Looked real to me. Now he realy was a Crazy Mother F****r. That was real, it was Jimmy TylerMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites