CanuckInUSA 0 #26 May 6, 2006 Quoteand write posts bashing DZ's and boogies to say they suck because they cant/won't pack for him. Huh? Am I bashing any specific DZs or boogies? Please enlighten me. When and where did I bash any specific DZs and/or boogies? WTF? I brought the point up because I've been to DZs/boogies that couldn't accomodate any extra packing jobs without knowing that you're going to have to wait and miss loads. Maybe you've been lucky enough to aways jump at DZs with tons and tons of packers and missing loads is never an issue for you. But I haven't. Get a grip I was never bashing any specific DZs or boogies. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #27 May 6, 2006 QuoteIt costs £4 for a pack job at my DZ I have said that i would never want to be in a plane with you, you have said that it is too late cause i already have in another thread. I believe you. You will not tell me who you are. Something else i believe about one of your posts is that the above statement is also true so i guess it is Hinton where you have been in the plane with me. Out of all your posts i have found a couple of things that i think you are telling the truth about, i will find out who you are. I know that your reserve must be second hand as if your profile is correct DZ sports has not sold this reserve. I know all the wings on the dropzone and believe you jump this. Getting closer to figuring out who you are. Keep posting as you will slip another clue up and with me always on the net i am enjoying this game. there is only one person i know of on the dz who jumps a wings with a pilot 188 so i do not think you have a pilot of this size, i think your canopy is smaller and more of a safire 2 149 unless your name is john. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pincheck 0 #28 May 7, 2006 do we start calling you detective . If i need something found can i give you a call to track her down As for packing it is a useful skill in getting to know your gear and the better you know it the more chance you will have of spotting potential gear issues or failures before they become major hazards which i feel others on here are trying to point out jumpingjimmy Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeNReN 0 #29 May 7, 2006 To push that a tad farther....do you know how to change a tire? and are you able to do so? Knowing how to pack is is very basic...understanding the gear that you trust your life to is another thing....as others have posted...being able to see potential problems before they occur is one of the key things in our sport of calculated risk....denying oneself of basic gear knowlage is not only dangerous its idiotic. Should we all be riggers or have the knowlage of riggers...no...but a good understanding of our gear is essential to survival in this sport........knowing how to pack and understanding what one is doing during packing is the 1st step. As to the forums newest troll....well...it seems he aspires to be be another Untamed Dog..."another kick ass post by "the dog" " quoted from another thread....my suggestion mirrors the usual "dont feed the troll" thingy....ignor the (insert PA here) .....he will fade away....scare himself with a few line twists...and run to mommy. never to really understand why people jump. BTW.....bogus numbers really undermind the integrity of the site...and YES I am talking to you Pop....straighten up and fly right or I'll swap your depends for pampers....stop setting a bad example for future trolls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #30 May 7, 2006 QuoteBesides my earlier post about knowing how to maintain you gear (that is a different subject, but related), you should know how to pack. That doesn't mean you need to pack for every jump. But if you are reliant on others to pack for you, what are you going to do when you're at a DZ or a boogie where no one is around or are too busy to get you on a load? You're going to sit on the ground instead of jumping, that's what's going to happen. If you think that there will always be someone around to pack for you, I've got some news for you. You obviously haven't been around to too many different DZs or different boogies. I saw this today, at the DZ I've historically found to be the most accommodating of the packing challenged. We were trying to plan a 4 way but waited until close to under 10 minutes to departure to know if he was going to be able to make it. There were packers, they just had a lot of work. On a long day, I'd like to use them part of the time, but not at the expense of having to stress over making a call. It's very distracting having to keep looking that away and occasionally to nag the guy about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #31 May 7, 2006 QuoteQuoteand write posts bashing DZ's and boogies to say they suck because they cant/won't pack for him. Huh? Am I bashing any specific DZs or boogies? Please enlighten me. When and where did I bash any specific DZs and/or boogies?... Get a grip I was never bashing any specific DZs or boogies. no not you, I don't kno wyou personnally but read your posts enough to blieve you have some competence in several domains of the sports and believe you are autonomous... But the poster of the Skydive Miami Bash thread and similar persons.. They will bash your boogie or DZ because they are not "top of the list" with the packers... And if they can't get packed, they can't jump, and if they can't jump they can't get the chicks kind of attitude.. and rant about it... Re-read my post... not against you.. I think scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Icon134 0 #32 May 7, 2006 I knew how to pack before I got my A-license but it took me until about my 50th or so jump to really get past the putting the D-bag on my parachute stage... I generally pack for myself... because I'd rather spend the money it costs to pack on jumping... (if I jump six times on a given day and pay a packer @ $5-6 a pack job with the money I've saved I can afford to jump a 7th time...) that and it provides me with a much desired knowledge of my gear...Livin' on the Edge... sleeping with my rigger's wife... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #33 May 7, 2006 On days where students turn up and it is too windy they should be practising packing instead of sitting around moaning about the weather and bitching about the tandems being able to jump and all the sporties. This is how it was where i was doing AFF and i ended up packing my own AFF level 1 chute. Students want to learn hoe to pack, it gives them something to do while shit weather and then they are not sitting aorund bitching to all the other students and customers. I now hate packing and do not pack. I use to pack a shit load but it has come to the point now that my slipped disk will stop me from jumping if i irritate it while packing so i just pay for the packjob. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #34 May 7, 2006 I packed my level 1 canopy and also my level 4 IIRC. I enjoyed it although was frustrating. Its satisfying to see how it all works and getting hands on, but then I'm a practical person. I think everyone should know how to pack pretty early on. What if, one day there was no packer or they were too busy. Although 4 quid isn't alot of money I would much rather pack for myself, even though im no guru it gives me added peace of mind when I know that it's in the bag and container nicely and I was the last one to do it. Also we get packing credits if we are using club equipment so makes the jumps cheaper. Why do 4 jumps in a day when I could do 5, putting in a little effort and paying the same money? Even if you pack your own gear still money in your pocket for another ticket than someone elses. You can still be social while packing. I find its a good atmosphere in the packing area once that lift have all got down and your all packing together. Paticularly as I'm a new face I get to speak to people I've not before. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #35 May 7, 2006 QuoteWhy do 4 jumps in a day when I could do 5, putting in a little effort and paying the same money? You do 5 jumps a day?? Time to change your profile. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #36 May 7, 2006 Haha, you know what I mean... anyway, now I'm working again.... hell yeah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #37 May 7, 2006 Dude visit this website www.visa.com They love skydivers! .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scoop 0 #38 May 7, 2006 Erm no. They wont even accept me for any more cards. Luckily only got one now, but I'm too much of a risk or some shit like that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #39 May 8, 2006 I always love to read these threads. I know how to pack but ask me how many times I have packed a parachute I have jumped. Every person who has a License should abolutly know HOW but to call someone who doesn't pack "Not a real jumper" is Bull Shit. Not sure if it is jealously or ego from you folks that slam those who don't pack. Is it that you think your soooo much better then because you do it yourself or are you jealous that someone has budgeted the money to pay a packer into their jumping? As for not being able to jump because it is to busy for a packer to get to your gear..well if your tipping your packer well you will get priority (right after the tandems cuz they always have priority) MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #40 May 8, 2006 paying the packers and the coaches is what I'm gonna do now for a big part of my season ( and the next ones). The point is some people just NEGLECT packing. learnt how to do it and never did it again, and couldn't care less. If you didn't have a packer, you certainly COULD pack for yourself. Some others would do 1 jump and then go home and brag because they are too much "customers" and not "actors"scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #41 May 8, 2006 Some people pay packers, some people have Cypres saves. If we try hard enough we can find something to rag on anybody about. What's the point?Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #42 May 8, 2006 QuoteSome people pay packers, some people have Cypres saves.I don't fire my Cypres on EACH jump edited to add : after my Cypres save, I didn't blame the manufacturer of the metal screws, or the person who sold me the complete helmet, or the DZ for letting us jump with a cloud , or, or, or.. I blamed myself for a poor choice in material on my helmet which I should have changed, and for a poor "technical" option of keeping my PC in the hand. See, I'm perfect... almost .. scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #43 May 9, 2006 QuoteSome people pay packers, some people have Cypres saves. Someone has been in incidents. As far as I have read, Pilsfish had a cypres save for what it the cypres is made for. was one of those times you cant bitch at the jumper being a dead man walking. The guy was lucky to have a cypres and i would jump with him anyday, he put his fellow jumpers before himself and cypres was there to back him up. Some people pay packers, some people are also smart enough to buy cypres. I thank him for his experience as i have now botght a cypres. I never thought i needed it, nor did i think i need a cutaway on my helmet, now i have both from his experiences. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #44 May 9, 2006 My point wasn't rousting him...it was that we can all find something to roust others about... I think he understood it.Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #45 May 9, 2006 sorry, that was a drunk post after a bad night. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srsand1960 0 #46 May 9, 2006 Right Riggerrob... it is a requirement on the "A" card. Hanging out at my home DZ on weather days in April and May, I've spent a lot of time being taught how to pack by different people, so I learned a couple of different ways. Then I packed and unpacked, packed and unpacked, until the DZ rigger told me not to because I was putting undue wear on the student equipment. But I learned different ways to do the S fold i.e., top to bottom, bottom to top, rolling up edge using the hip and one hand or wristing the tail and using both hands at the same time. I probably packed (and unpacked:) at least 25 times before jumping my own pack job. From repetition you develop your own way of getting all that fabric in that little tiny bag. It doesn't matter how anyone else lives their life.... it matter how you live yours! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #48 May 9, 2006 {5 hours later} .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orange1 0 #49 May 9, 2006 Quote until the DZ rigger told me not to because I was putting undue wear on the student equipment Riggers, is this true? I'm pretty sure I read somewhere packing (as long as it isn't in the sun) doesn't harm the canopy (exactly in this context of practising packing). Then again not sure where I read that... may have been on the netSkydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnny1488 1 #50 May 10, 2006 Quotehey, why not everybody learn to pack and then the packers will be out of a job... sounds good to me 65 of my 71 pack jobs on Sunday were for people who knew how to pack. And I am closing in on 10k pack jobs with out a malfunction. Sounds good to me. Johnny --"This ain't no book club, we're all gonna die!" Mike Rome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
