rocketdog 0 #1 July 16, 2004 For those of you that weighed all the options with me, I have an ironic story to share. After reading a lot in the posts & hearing it from skydivers personally, I thought that I really could force 2 canopies into a downplane, and cut the main away after separation. Last night I heard of an incident involving a close skydiver: Apparently, he was doing CReW -- something people in the previous thread had mentioned trying. While in a "stable" downplane with a thread his reserve popped (they think the reserve cable might have been too short!?). So, at about 2000 feet he has a "stable" biplane. At some altitude below that, he decided to force them into a downplane and cutaway -- something directly discussed in the previous thread. Well, it becomes a downplane but after he cut away the main, it wrapped around his smooth-flying reserve, catching the 2 right end cells. ....basically a main/reserve entanglement. I don't know from what altitude he started spinning under it, but he spun himself into the ground and literally bounced. Miraculously, he walked away with nothing but a concussion Just wanted to share this. Even after all the debating and reading manufacturer's suggestions, it goes to show that there is no clear-cut way to handle 2 canopies out. *safe skydives* ~hollywood see the world! http://gorocketdog.blogspot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #2 July 16, 2004 he bounced and only got concusion. damn he needs a lotto ticket. cant comment on the downplane as i have no clue but dead man walking needs a lotto ticket .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 July 16, 2004 Read the incidents fourm. There are many more details in that thread then here.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rocketdog 0 #4 July 17, 2004 yeah, but the point of this thread isn't to regurgitate his incident. it's to complement everyone's suggestion of what they would do in the instance of a bi-plane or side-by-side see the world! http://gorocketdog.blogspot.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slug 1 #5 July 18, 2004 Quoteyeah, but the point of this thread isn't to regurgitate his incident. it's to complement everyone's suggestion of what they would do in the instance of a bi-plane or side-by-side I was unfortunate enought to end up with a biplane but it occured at 1500' so I had the advantage of time to evaluate the situations and my options. The biplane was flying steady as a rock did some gentle turns to get back to the hanger and had a nice standup. From what I've read a biplane check it out to see how it's, then make a decision. Flying a side by side due to the possiablty of a downplane plus the tension on the risers away from the reserve cut it away high. You can also do a search on the subject on this forum. The GK did some test jumps. However these tests and my experience were based on larger canopies. Don't know about the problems with a rocket ship and and a reserve in a biplane. R.I.P. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #6 July 18, 2004 This discussion is an amusing intellectual exercise. HOWEVER, the best way to understand biplanes, side-by-sides and down-planes is to do a few jumps with a canopy formation coach. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites