dropdeded 0 #1 November 17, 2002 Who is qualified to sign my log book?I usually just ask someone from the same load.I tried a search and couldnt find what Im asking.Is there a rule as to who can sign and who can not sign it ?It seems like its pretty much an honor system thing,I mean if I claim 200 jumps and Im renting a 260 ripcord rig that would raise some eyebrows. dropdeded PCSS#26------------------------------------------ The Dude Abides. - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
narcimund 0 #2 November 17, 2002 Don't look to the rules and regulations to replace honor. In fact, there are no rules and regulations. There is no authority. Do as you like. Live with the consequences. First Class Citizen Twice Over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christoofar 0 #3 November 17, 2002 Quote Who is qualified to sign my log book?I usually just ask someone from the same load.I tried a search and couldnt find what Im asking.Is there a rule as to who can sign and who can not sign it ?It seems like its pretty much an honor system thing,I mean if I claim 200 jumps and Im renting a 260 ripcord rig that would raise some eyebrows. dropdeded PCSS#26 There are no rules. The only real thing that has to be checked when you travel somewhere else is your reserve repack card. A good DZ will have an S&TA look over your logbook or have a chat with you about your experience before they let you manifest. Your jump number isn't a real good clue at how you skydive, that's why you log your jumps, meet different people, and have buddies sign your logbook. I have refused to jump with several people that have higher jump numbers than me because I've seen their antics and I don't feel comfortable in the air with them. If all we cared about was jump numbers, I could just put an odometer on my wrist and push the button every time I land and forget the logbook. ____________________________________________________________ I'm RICK JAMES! Fo shizzle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #4 November 17, 2002 In the old days it was any licensed jumper who witnessed the jump, or the pilot who flew the load. I'm not sure when it changed, or what it changed to. I'm too lazy to look through the USPA regs for the current state of affairs. Perhaps ask an S&TA or a conference director what consititues evidence for jump numbers these days. I'm approaching my diamond wings and was recently told that they don't all have to be signed (sigh of relief). We used to have signing parties at the bar for people who were getting their wings, and the lagbook had to be all signed up. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markbaur 0 #5 November 17, 2002 USPA SIM 3-1, paragraph C sub-paragraph 2: Jumps for license and rating qualfications must be signed by another licensed skydiver, a pilot, or a USPA National or FAI Judge who witnessed the jump. sub-paragraph 3: Jumps to meet skill requirements must be signed by a USPA Instructor, Instructor Examiner, Safety & Training Advisor, or a member of the USPA Board of Directors. Mark Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slotperfect 7 #6 November 17, 2002 Here are some general rules of thumb: -student jumps or qualifying jumps for USPA license (e.g. 4-point 4-way for "C" license) = USPA or Coach or higher or foreign equivalent. -jumps that will be looked at in the future to validate currency, license requirements, USPA rating prerequisites, etc. = a USPA licensed skydiver or foreign equivalent. -jump #1234, where you docked on your mother on her first tandem jump = your mother! -Hope this helped. I do encourage you to 1) log every jump with all the important stuff 2) if there's no tracking system in your current logbook for the info you want to track, make up your own 3) continue to add up your freefall time and get signatures until you hold every rating that requires those. Arrive Safely John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sar911 0 #7 November 17, 2002 Once a month or so I get a printout of my account at each DZ. That way I have third party verification of my jump numbers, and it keeps my log accurate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cameramonkey 0 #8 November 18, 2002 Nice pic Sar.... ;)Two wrongs don't make a right, however three lefts DO! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #9 November 18, 2002 thanks for that refernce! I have seen a lot of newer jumpers lately who sign thier own log! basically bc they are doing solos and are afraid to asksomeone to sign the book. 2 things that suck about that! 1-they are jumping alone! WHY?! 2-they aren't being corrected about the logbook signatures! Ive seen a bunch of visitors who have thier book filled with thier own sig! I, personally, like to get ppl I jump with to sign my book.My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Designer 0 #10 November 19, 2002 Always wanted Buckwheat to sign mine.Where,s buckwheat when ya need him? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kennedy 0 #11 November 20, 2002 QuoteI have seen a lot of newer jumpers lately who sign thier own log! basically bc they are doing solos and are afraid to asksomeone to sign the book. 2 things that suck about that! 1-they are jumping alone! WHY?! 2-they aren't being corrected about the logbook signatures! So, did you sign for them and correct them?witty subliminal message Guard your honor, let your reputation fall where it will, and outlast the bastards. 1* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,105 #12 November 20, 2002 QuoteQuoteI have seen a lot of newer jumpers lately who sign thier own log! basically bc they are doing solos and are afraid to asksomeone to sign the book. 2 things that suck about that! 1-they are jumping alone! WHY?! 2-they aren't being corrected about the logbook signatures! So, did you sign for them and correct them? Better yet - did you offer to jump with them next time? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jtval 0 #13 November 20, 2002 well the reasonI saw their book is b/c I jumped with them!I hate seeing solojumpers Unless they WANT TO. I corrected them too. I am a freeflyer in need of training but I OFTEN go RW just to jump with some newbie! like friday for instance. Celeste (form dz.com) is coming here. I have no problem jumping with her. (if I can slow down ) and she is new. I totally encourage the "fly your friendly skies" atmosphere! My photos My Videos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffGordon 0 #14 November 21, 2002 Buckwheat jumps in Walterboro a lot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brisco 0 #15 November 21, 2002 Buckwheat converted to Islam - he's now known as Kareema Wheat. Brisco Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydude2000 3 #16 April 27, 2006 Hi, I was pretty weirded out too, when I went to top floor and everyone else went out before me. I just wanted to work on some solo style stuff(right after my checkout jump) And I was kinda confused about logging my jump for that, since no one really saw it. The pilot can't really say squat, so I just got another licensed guy to do it, and hope he believed me. But I'm not at the point yet where I can BS my jump #'s or my skills and get away with it. So I wasn't worried. Cheers, Skydude.PULL!! or DIE!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #17 April 27, 2006 The other things that sucks is that someone is afraid to ask someone to sign the book. I wonder what kind of comradie is being projected at the DZ....am I being too cynical? Newbies need and want encouragement, eh?My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
