Martini 0 #26 April 18, 2006 QuoteRussian pressure suits are widely available nowadays. One went for $9000 a while back on Ebay, complete with spare seals. Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 April 18, 2006 Quote Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money. Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #28 April 18, 2006 Quote>The people who make the suits won’t sell them to civilians . . . Russian pressure suits are widely available nowadays. One went for $9000 a while back on Ebay, complete with spare seals. Thats the one I would want to wear if I was going high, the ebay special.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MB38 0 #29 April 18, 2006 QuoteQuote Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money. Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density? Wingsuits use magic.I really don't know what I'm talking about. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MikeForsythe 0 #30 April 18, 2006 QuoteThats the one I would want to wear if I was going high, the ebay special.Awe come on Michael, your a RIGGER, you don't need no stinking space suit!Time and pressure will always show you who a person really is! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #31 April 18, 2006 QuoteQuoteThats the one I would want to wear if I was going high, the ebay special.Awe come on Michael, your a RIGGER, you don't need no stinking space suit! As a matter of fact I am. And you are right, I don't need a space suit because I am not going to jump from above 62,000 feet.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #32 April 19, 2006 QuoteQuote Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money. Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density? I think the question to be asked is about his fitness and ability to maintain form for that long. If the SR71 can fly at triple digits, why can't he? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #33 April 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money. Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density? I think the question to be asked is about his fitness and ability to maintain form for that long. If the SR71 can fly at triple digits, why can't he? See above responce in bold.My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkM 0 #34 April 19, 2006 Quote Wingsuits use magic. It's all in the pixie dust. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd-slider 0 #35 April 19, 2006 Quotejust out of curiosity, how much do you think it'd be? "One Million Dollars!" - Dr. Evil Anvil Brother #69 Sidelined with a 5mm C5-C6 herniated disk... Back2Back slammers and 40yr old fat guys don't mix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sd-slider 0 #36 April 19, 2006 Quoteinteresting that it's simply a question of raising the money... Very interesting... I can see the look on your face now.....interestingED look indeed! Anvil Brother #69 Sidelined with a 5mm C5-C6 herniated disk... Back2Back slammers and 40yr old fat guys don't mix! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #37 April 19, 2006 QuoteQuoteQuote Does the suit have wings? I mean that anyone who does a 60,000 + ft. jump had better be wearing a wingsuit or it would be a complete waste of time/money. Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density? I think the question to be asked is about his fitness and ability to maintain form for that long. If the SR71 can fly at triple digits, why can't he? Hehe . . . Air density my boy . . . air density! Not a whole lot of air molecules up there. The SR-71, U-2, ect., all fly on a -very- thin margin between level flight and stall. Just a few knots really. The U-2 does it with a very large wing and "some" thrust, the SR-71 does it with a very small wing and a LOT of thrust. A guy in a wingsuit, practically no wing and absolutely no thrust. So, for a wingsuit there is going to be a practical limit and diminishing returns on altitude jumped vs distance flown. In other words, at a certain point going higher just isn't going to make you glide any farther. Using a Space Shuttle skydive analogy, imagine jumping out from 300 miles above the surface. You really wouldn't be gliding forward for -quite- some time.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #38 April 19, 2006 Quote Uh . . . how much do you know about atmospheric pressure and air density? Plenty. But I still stand by my original remark. I jumped my old GTI from about 20k once. Time and distance weren't my goal. Just the high fun quotient.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #39 April 19, 2006 Quote See above responce in bold. sheesh - did I miss the section about the humor ban in the forum guidelines? Or even whistful fantasy longing? Drop him high enough to get enough speed to use those limited particles and he won't even need his suit heated. His wingsuit looks the right color already. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpole 1 #40 April 19, 2006 If you had some good mexican food with a-lot-o beans, you could get some thrust! Just gotta cut a hole in the ass of that "space suit"Darwin's Watching! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,065 #41 April 19, 2006 >Using a Space Shuttle skydive analogy, imagine jumping out from >300 miles above the surface. You really wouldn't be gliding forward for >-quite- some time. Actually, you'd never come down. No way to add speed, but no way to lose it either - and the shuttle's in orbit by the time it gets to those altitudes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
twibbles 0 #42 April 19, 2006 QuoteQuotet of us that have been around the block a couple times already know the story. You might wanna also look into what the Soviet Union did in that time period as well. I was fascinated in hearing that Yuri Gargarian bailed out on reentry for the first flight. Not sure if it was before or after the chutes opened on the capsule, or how high up. Cheaters. Presumably it wasn't that high up or they'd have made a claim on it. The vostok wasn't designed to land with the pilot, it didn't have chutes. The pilots bailed out, Gagarin left at 7km, and landed under two canopies after his reserve deployed as well. Eugene "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZigZagMarquis 9 #43 April 19, 2006 ... hate to hi-jack this thread, but what the heck... Mikey... do you know of anyone who's successfully banged out of an SR71 at high altitude and lived to tell about it? ... remember all, ejection seats are not guaranteed to save your life, they are just there to remove you from the airplane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #44 April 19, 2006 Not an SR-71, but definately at least one guy ejected from a U-2 and lived to tell about it; Francis Gary Powers. Kinda started a bit of a bruhaha as I recall. BTW, a lot of folks didn't think it was actually possible to survive it at the time (which was part of the bruhaha). Kinda interesting reading here; http://www.foia.cia.gov/powers.aspquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,065 #45 April 19, 2006 >do you know of anyone who's successfully banged out of an SR71 >at high altitude and lived to tell about it? When an SR-71 is cruising, its indicated airspeed is so low that it's not as big a problem (400kts) as ejecting from a lower-altitude aircraft at high true airspeeds (like an EF-111 or an F-14.) The highest IAS scenario ever envisioned for an ejection seat was a max-Q ejection from the Space Shuttle during launch. (The first four flights used ejection seats.) Some SR-71 ejections: The highest speed one was probably in 1966. A mach 3.2, 79,000 foot turning test resulted in an engine unstart, rendering the plane instantly uncontrollable. Neither pilot was able to reach the ejection handles due to high G-loadings. The aircraft then disintegrated around the two pilots. The pilot's ejection seat functioned partially and deployed his parachute, allowing him to land safely. The other pilot was killed. Also in 1966, an SR-71 was used to launch a drone, which immediately malfunctioned and flew back into the SR-71, breaking it in half. The crew actually rode the front half of the aircraft for a while before ejecting. They both lived. A number of SR-71 ejections occurred after in-flight problems rendered the aircraft unlandable, but still controllable. In these cases, smart pilots generally descended and slowed the aircraft before ejecting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murps2000 86 #46 April 20, 2006 A number of SR-71 ejections occurred after in-flight problems rendered the aircraft unlandable, but still controllable. In these cases, smart pilots generally descended and slowed the aircraft before ejecting. *** Did SR-71 pilots use pressure suits? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #47 April 20, 2006 Not only -did- they, they still do. Generally speaking, anyone flying over 60,000 feet would since above that (or thereabouts) the pressure is so little that blood boils. A loss in cabin pressure, even with an oxygen mask forcing air down your lungs, wouldn't be enough to keep you from the grim reaper.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheDonMan 0 #48 April 20, 2006 I seem to remember a guy that bailed out of a plane in a storm cloud and ended up going up to what some people say about 50,000 feet. he lived but was hurting really bad.. dam i love these faces i can make The world is full of willing people, some willing to work, the rest willing to let them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #49 April 20, 2006 QuoteI found an article on this site about "spacediving" In the article it said that someone was going to be attempting this in 2002. Anyone heard anything about that?http://www.strongparachutes.com/stratoquest.htmlI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #50 April 20, 2006 QuoteQuoteI found an article on this site about "spacediving" In the article it said that someone was going to be attempting this in 2002. Anyone heard anything about that?http://www.strongparachutes.com/stratoquest.html Cheryl's still planning on making the trip but has had many delays along the way. Listen to her on Skydive Radio. She was interviewed a few weeks ago. Remarkable woman. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
