hookitt 1 #26 April 16, 2006 QuoteI think these jumps are one of the dumbest tricks out there. Tell us more why you feel this way? There are many dumb things to do yet people do them anyway. I find Mr Bill dives to be a calculated risk and can be done rather safely. Some folks are simply more adept at calculating than others.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #27 April 16, 2006 It doesn't take an abacus to figure out the endless hazards.Johnny, tell Darwin and Murphy what they've won.Johnny: "Darwin, You've won a concussion and new teeth. Murphy, since you hung on so well, we're sending you to rehab for 6 months and an all expense trip to the bowling alley. We wish we could give you more, but our producers have no sympathy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #28 April 16, 2006 So you're saying you wouldn't want to do one? Of course, obviously it's more of a risk. I've done a few and the worst result was I couldn't hold on through deployment. Sometimes not studying math has it's benefits. It makes risk calculations a lot easierMy grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frenchcloud 0 #29 April 17, 2006 here is why you shouldn t try... just go base jumping. -------------------------------------------------- The tongue is NOT only a tool for speech! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #30 April 17, 2006 Yes, I've seen that. Proper planning includes feet placement. When wrappinging your legs around the other jumper, keep your feet well away from the main pack tray. No one says that a Mr Bill is safe but people *will* do them anyway. Since they will, show them how. Don't do ever! .... doesn't work. When I first started, the instructors were swooping. I asked about it and the feedback I recieved was ... Don't do hook turns, and that was that. Rather than someone showing me how, I just figured it out myself. It's a crummy way to learn. Mr Bills are dangerous, no doubt about it. It won't stop anyone from doing them if they want to because they are fun.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krkeenan 0 #31 April 17, 2006 Quote It doesn't take an abacus to figure out the endless hazards. If you think some aspect of skydiving if not within your comfort zone, then don't go there. Why try to change someone else's mind about what they should do. This is a sport of individual choices. From an outside perspective all of skydiving is horribly hazardous, but how sick are you of hearing that from your mother-in-law ?? Kevin====================== Seasons don't fear the Reaper, nor do the Wind, the Sun, or the Rain... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cocheese 0 #32 April 17, 2006 QuoteQuote It doesn't take an abacus to figure out the endless hazards. If you think some aspect of skydiving if not within your comfort zone, then don't go there. Why try to change someone else's mind about what they should do. This is a sport of individual choices. From an outside perspective all of skydiving is horribly hazardous, but how sick are you of hearing that from your mother-in-law ?? Kevin The surgen General has determined that Mother-in-Laws are hazardous to your health. Now there is somewhere where i don't want to go. So what's the proper way to do a safe Mr. Bill ? How many jumps should one have ? Wing loading limits ? Any rig brands that should be avoided ? Will you please give us page full of pointers so we can do this properly ? You're right, Let's all do a Mr. Bill this weekend and report back here with our results.God , how could i have been such a mother.. in law ? please forgive me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martini 0 #33 April 18, 2006 Now there's an attitude I can get behind. High on my list is a soft opening canopy. Lots of altitude is a good idea too.Sometimes you eat the bear.............. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weegegirl 2 #34 April 18, 2006 Ahhhhhhhhh.... Mr. Bill. Last season I exited wrapped on my best buddy who was flying his Velocity 103. Pulled off a sweeeeeeeet Mr. Bill. Flew around for a while. He was doing riser turns and the preasure just got so intense I had to eventually say "CYA!" We were loading that thing like a rock! Sure, yes, there are LOTS of dangers in skydiving and in doing silly Mr. Bills. But like someone said... it's all calculated risk. And if you aren't willing or ready to take it, then don't. I did rub my chin pretty good on his chest strap. Left a little red mark. But we were fine. And damn that was fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
