Canadian with a USPA A License

[dekac99 0]

Do you have to be a CSPA member too in order to jump at a DZ in Canada/Ontario? Shouldn't USPA membership be enough?

[sdsouthsask 0]

There is a very large difference in liability insurance between USPA and CSPA.

[Remster 30]

With CSPA and USPA liability insurance, you need to be a resident of the association's country for the insurance to be valid to the best of my recolection...

Remster

[dekac99 0]

Here is what was the answer regarding the incurance from the USPA:

"The third party liability insurance is valid for foreign members while skydiving in the US and Canada."

[Tumble 0]

CSPA 3rd party liability insurance is good for bodily injury and damage to property to a max of 2 million dollars per occurrence.

I don't know what USPA's max per occurrence is but I believe its a lot less than this. I have heard $50,000 but don't know for sure.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

Our insurance is not valid for incidents involving Canadian residents without a CSPA membership. We will happily recognize your foreign training, but you must join CSPA to jump at Pacific, Alberta or Niagara Skydivers.

[dekac99 0]

It means then that a canadian with a USPA license should pay for two memberships in order to jump in Canada .

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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It means then that a canadian with a USPA license should pay for two memberships in order to jump in Canada .

No just at CSPA dropzones.
If you move to Britain you will have to join BPA, move to Australia and join APf, move to,... get the picture?

[teason 0]

It really depends on the DZ.

If you have an FAI certificate of proficiency, it proves your skill level. Some DZOs are fine with that.

Other DZOs, may have a problem with the fact that you would not be covered by any insurance.

I haven't done an exuastive search but I have not been able to find anything in the regs that would prevent you from jumping at a CSPA DZ if all you have is USPA. (besides, of course, the insurance issue).

Now, third party liability insurance is basically useless but does offer some protection. The CSPA currently has a $2 mil policy which means if you land on a car, and somehow do $2mil in damage, the insurance will cover it. It's a longshot that anyone would claim against that type of insurance (although it has happened in the past in Alberta and a judgement was awarded).

Now If a claim ever was put forward, it would be the goal of the insurance company to find a way to not pay it. That is why some DZs my not want to let you jump at thier DZ without membership/insurance. It could open them up for liability (as remote as that may be)

Essentially, there is no law that states you must have CSPA or any other membership, it's just the DZOs perogative. Hell, in canada, there aren't any aviation regulations pertaining to skydiving outside demo jumps. It is purely self regulated (AOC not withstanding)

I would rather be a superb meteor, every atom of me in magnificent glow, than a sleepy and permanent planet.

[packerboy 3]

Skydive Gananoque is a USPA group member dropzonee which houses a CSPA "club". You can jump at the dropzone as long as you hold one or the other, doesn't matter which.

By the way, we have a lot of jumpers travelling from Toronto on a weekly basis to jump here. Just bring your log book and your membership card and we'll hook you up.

www.skydivegan.com

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