MrBrant 0 #26 April 11, 2006 how many loads before it has to fuel Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #27 April 11, 2006 How many DZ's do you know of that are operating and original 100 or 200 series? Most have upgraded them to 300 series standards, and that costs money.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praetorian 1 #28 April 11, 2006 QuoteBy the way. The D328 would probably make it to 13.5 in about 10 minutes and take about 5 minutes to descend. For extra credit. How many loads is that per hour? No calculators please. That's cheating. well not including fueling and load/jump run I'd say thats 4per hour, but with fuel and load/jumprun I'd say 3 per hour more like 7 every 2 hrs next questions 1 or 2 pilots (whats its gross weight) how many per load just to turn the thing? if the exit is rear only is that gonna be as useful as a large otter side door? or more like the 727 single file thing ohohoh and they have retractable gear too ... big insurance BUMB Good Judgment comes from experience...a lot of experience comes from bad judgment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #29 April 12, 2006 The Dornier would take a payload of 8135 pounds or aproximitely 40 jumpers to 13.5 in about 10 minutes. while buning about 1800#s per hour or 270 gallons That's about four loads per flight hour. Assuming $20 per jump That's a Potential gross revenue of aproximately $3200 per flight hour. 2 pilots MTOW 30,843 pounds The baggage door is just somewhat smaller than a twin otter. Three floaters outside would work.Though jump runs would be pretty fast and they'd realy have to hang on. Here's a pic. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1001388&WxsIERv=Snvepuvyq%20Qbeavre%20328-110&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Jrypbzr%20Nve&QtODMg=Vaafoehpx%20-%20Xenarovggra%20%28VAA%20%2F%20YBJV%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Wnahnel%205%2C%202006&BP=1&WNEb25u=Cuvyvccr%20Onyyrefgrqg&xsIERvdWdsY=BR-TOO&MgTUQtODMgKE=Qhevat%20obneqvat.%20Guvf%20bar%20unq%20gb%20jnvg%20n%20srj%20zvahgrf%20sbe%20gur%20pbaarpgvat%20cynar%20sebz%20Jrypbzr%20Nve.%20Nf%20fbba%20nf%20gur%20cynar%20ynaqrq%2C%20gur%20cnffratref%20yvggrenyl%20jnyxrq%20sebz%20bar%20nvepensg%20gb%20gur%20bgure%20ba%20gur%20gneznp.%20Qbbef%20pybfrq%2C%20naq%20gnxrbss%21%20Gung%27f%20jung%20V%20pnyy%20dhvpx%20genafvg%21&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=1167&NEb25uZWxs=2006-02-10%2020%3A42%3A08&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=3078&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Qbeavre%20328%27%20BE%20nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Snvepuvyq%20Qbeavre%20328%27%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=49&prev_id=1002230&next_id=1001311 It's doable. One big problem is the dornier is an orphan. Fairchild Dornier is bankrupt. That might make it difficult to get approval for the mods it would need. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skyberdyber 0 #30 April 12, 2006 You guys got it all wrong, screw the 328 turboprop. Let's do 14,000 feet in 4 minutes in the Dornier Jet! There were a bunch in receivership a couple of years back in Germany. Still 6 million bucks, but man how cool woul that be. A semi-practical jump jet. http://www.skydiveatlanta.com http://www.musiccityskydiving.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBrant 0 #31 April 12, 2006 hehe - jump jet although i'd like to see somebody try to hit the tail on that 328 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #32 April 12, 2006 Skyberdyber is right. Probably about 6 minutes to altitude though. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0992669&WxsIERv=Snvepuvyq%20Qbeavre%20328WRG-300&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Jrypbzr%20Nve&QtODMg=Vaafoehpx%20-%20Xenarovggra%20%28VAA%20%2F%20YBJV%29&ERDLTkt=Nhfgevn&ktODMp=Qrprzore%2031%2C%202005&BP=1&WNEb25u=Fira%20Qr%20Orirer&xsIERvdWdsY=BR-YWE&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=602&NEb25uZWxs=2006-01-22%2008%3A00%3A09&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=3213&static=yes&width=1024&height=694&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Qbeavre%20328%27%20BE%20nvepensg_trarevp%20%3D%20%27Snvepuvyq%20Qbeavre%20328%27%29%20%20beqre%20ol%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=71&prev_id=0993337&next_id=0992450 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #33 April 12, 2006 Anybody got any idea what the maintainance per hour runs? Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyMan 7 #34 April 12, 2006 If you're going to go that big, why not a Dash 8? There's got to be plenty of older ones being given up by comuter airlines looking to upgrade to CRJ's ? _Am__ You put the fun in "funnel" - craichead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpwally 0 #35 April 12, 2006 Yeah thats too bad,,,I always wondered what the business model is for letting phased out prop planes sit around,,its costing somebody something and why wouldnt they want them off the balance sheet....?oh well,,,not for me to decide, but it does climb like a motha smile, be nice, enjoy life FB # - 1083 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #36 April 12, 2006 QuoteAnybody got any idea what the maintainance per hour runs? I'd guestimate total operating cost for the 328TP at around $1800 per hour The jet would be somewhat higher due to fuel burn and the fact they cost about 4 million more. You don't have to buy one. Just convince the leasing company to give you a per hour rate for 10 days or so during the convention rather than let the thing sit in the desert. Don Kirlin are you listening? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #37 April 12, 2006 QuoteIf you're going to go that big, why not a Dash 8? There's got to be plenty of older ones being given up by comuter airlines looking to upgrade to CRJ's ? _Am The Dash 8 100 is just a big twin otter. Not much larger than the Dornier [37 versus 33 passengers] and it has smaller engines. It would make a great jump ship but no big attraction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diverdriver 6 #38 April 12, 2006 I doubt you can get it certified for flight with the cargo door off. And I don't think the door was wider than an otter door. However, it would fly a perfect jump run on its own if programed correctly. The DO328 is a smart plane. I flew the TP for just over a year. It's an awesome performer. And I had one single engine event in flight. It was a non-event. Drawbacks: Side exit not much bigger than what is available now. High cost of hourly operation. Certification. Two pilots required. No-demand for aircraft that large on a regular basis.Chris Schindler www.diverdriver.com ATP/D-19012 FB #4125 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomSpoon 4 #39 April 12, 2006 Dornier 328 jet for sale cheap! Only 3.7 million http://www.controller.com/listings/forsale/detail.asp?OHID=1093876&guid=A04AD4608C4C40BC8B1E42A978412F45 Someone go tell Don to get his checkbbook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites