peckerhead 0 #26 March 17, 2006 QuoteI am very suprised at all the people saying they don't pay if they ride down. I am even more suprised by those who say they expect not to pay or grumble about it if they have to. If you are not a student and you decide to get on the plane you should pay for your slot. Why should the DZO have to eat the whole load. They should make their decision to send the students up or not and you decide for yourself. I absolutely agree. As I mentioned before Somebody has to pay for it! If the jumpers don't pay for their ride then the DZO is the one who has to pay the bill. It is not a matter of being "cool" If that happens often enough everyone will end up paying for it through higher jump rates. Aircraft are expensive to operate whether you jump or not and it is not just the fuel it is also the time on the machine, the pilots time and so on. It would be like telling your buddy that you will pay for gas to go on a fishing trip and then refusing to give him any money because you did not catch anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #27 March 17, 2006 You pay for the plane ride. The skydive is free. If you get on the plane, and ride it up....you pay...whether or not you jump. ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_owen_uk 0 #28 March 17, 2006 Never had to stay on plane, but once nearly had to, I was told that I would get my jump ticket (strange that they don't call it a plane ride ticket) back, although that could be because I am still a student. I wouldn't object if I had to pay, it would suck, but it's gotta be paid for somewhere along the line.__________________ BOOM Headshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #29 March 17, 2006 It was happened once, get a refund, but not because of weather. Plane had some radio problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skytash 0 #30 March 17, 2006 Our dz has a similar policy to the one mentioned at Weston. If I'm jump master and it's cloudy, I'll ask the pilot to radio down to find out if they can see any holes in the cloud from the ground at around 6 or 8k. If the answer is no, we stop climbing and people can choose to jump from cloud base (if it's high enough) and either way pay for a hop'n'pop as that is as far as the ride went. Like ltdiver said - you pay for the plane ride, why climb higher if you can tell there is unlikely to be any change? If the CCI calls us down for winds, we tend to get our tickets back though unless we've been warned before the jump. tashDon't ever save anything for a special occasion. Being alive is a special occasion. Avril Sloe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #31 March 19, 2006 We're all adults here, I think it's fair for dropzones to charge for the ride to altitude. Besides, this means that the actual jump itself is FREE. You pay for a plane ride, maybe for a camera, a coach, an instructor, maybe gear rental, maybe anything else you can think of. Stepping out the door is free - as it should be. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #32 March 19, 2006 The total costs of doing business has to be rolled into the prices. So for those saying "no", you're fooling yourselves. If you don't pay for it on that particular load, then you are paying for it on every jump by having slightly higher prices for everything else the DZ does. I think it's more fair to charge something to the passengers of the actual load - based on the max altitude achieved, not necessarily the full ticket price. They chose to get on in dicey conditions. Spreading it out in all operations is unfair to those that don't get on during bad weather. That's what our DZ does and I fully agree with them. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #33 March 19, 2006 Our DZ operates along the same principles. If you get on a load, you pay for max climb height, whether you jump or not. Skydivers are expected to know lots about personal responsibility. The risk of $20 in comparison to almost all other factors seem rather limited to me. Complaining about not getting money back is very rare and almost exclusively limited to foreign jumpers - who have been briefed on the policy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Liemberg 0 #34 March 19, 2006 QuoteYour thoughts would be appreciated. I wouldn't dream to let any of my FRIENDS do something as trivial as to PAY for something as spiritually rewarding and mind-expanding as SKYDIVING. Just imagine what it would do for my karma. However. I do expect my friends to help me with the cost of keeping the airplane flying... "Whoever in discussion adduces authority uses not intellect but memory." - Leonardo da Vinci A thousand words... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ladyskydiver 0 #35 March 19, 2006 Yes.Life is short! Break the rules! Forgive quickly! Kiss slowly! Love truly, Laugh uncontrollably. And never regret anything that made you smile. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
