skypuppy 1 #1 February 24, 2006 As the deadline for the big aad debate at the CSPA AGM, I ask.... Are AADs mandatory in: France? Russia? Belgium? Denmark? Saudi Arabia? Spain (Empuriabrava?) Turkey? If so, are exceptions allowed? Like CRW? Swooping? Certain licence levels being exempt? Looking for NATIONAL ORGANIZATION POLICIES only, not specific 'my dropzone-only' info. Any other countries where AADs are mandated past student level? Please, try to only reply with CURRENT, and TRUE FACTS, not opinions from "When I was there in 1999...." I'm expecially looking for input from some of the nationals involved.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Freeflysmiley 2 #2 February 24, 2006 It is legal to jump in England and Spain if you wish without an AAD. However certain dropzones, for example Empuriabrava do themselves insist on an AAD or will prevent you from jumping.-------------------------------------------------- Practise the 6 P's! -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
daniel_owen_uk 0 #3 February 24, 2006 England requires AAD for A licence jumpers.__________________ BOOM Headshot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loonix 0 #4 February 24, 2006 norway: required for students, optional for others. If you don't have one, you must have an RSL.. (if you have one, an RSL is not mandatory) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IanHarrop 42 #5 February 24, 2006 IPC report from 2003. http://www.velocidadvertical.com/attachs/AADReport2003.pdf Also posted to to CSPA chat."Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #6 February 24, 2006 The Netherlands untill C licence (200 jumps min) ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pywas 0 #7 February 24, 2006 In Lithuania AAD is mandatory untli "D" category (500 jumps). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P-dro 0 #8 February 24, 2006 Mandatory in France for everyone, no exception... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velo90 0 #9 February 24, 2006 In Germany. No national policy apart from mandatory for students. Some DZ's have their own AAD requirements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #10 February 24, 2006 Empuriabrava exempts CRW jumpers from the AAD requirement. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piisfish 140 #11 February 24, 2006 QuoteMandatory in France for everyone, no exception...Isn't that only for FFP jumping ? What is the situation for Parapro jumping ? In Switzerland (not on your list), AAD mandatory for students and tandems AFAIK.scissors beat paper, paper beat rock, rock beat wingsuit - KarlM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dolph 0 #12 February 24, 2006 Mandatory in Denmark from 2006 on. New regulation. No exceptions. I even saw an FXC on a belly mounted reserve. Guy was jumping a T-10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zahiv 0 #13 February 25, 2006 In Israel it's mandatory, no exceptions. We were the 1st country that AAD's became mandatory ...And once you have tasted flight, you will walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you long to return... blue sky Asaf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanglesOZQld 0 #14 February 25, 2006 No mention of Australia or the USA here...........? MMMmm "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #15 February 25, 2006 QuoteNo mention of Australia or the USA here...........? MMMmm I'll let one of the Aussies speak to Australia, but since the question was about countries that require AADs past the student level, that leaves the U.S. out of the discussion, at least on a country-wide level. Certainly there are individual DZs that require them or require up to a certain license level/jump number, but no national requirement exists beyond students."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shunkka 0 #16 February 26, 2006 romania till 100 jumps ------------------------- "jump, have fun, pull" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grue 1 #17 February 26, 2006 Required in Australia until you have your D.cavete terrae. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #18 February 26, 2006 Quotenorway: required for students, optional for others. If you don't have one, you must have an RSL.. (if you have one, an RSL is not mandatory) What about if you're doing crw, not a good idea to have either, in my opinion, when doing crw?If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macaw 0 #19 February 26, 2006 Mandatory in Russia ________________________________________ Life is a series of wonderful opportunities brilliantly disguised as impossible situations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #20 February 26, 2006 Quotenorway: required for students, optional for others. If you don't have one, you must have an RSL.. (if you have one, an RSL is not mandatory) That is one very weird rule. AAD's and RSL's have totally different purposes, the use of one doesn't preclude the use of the other. This rule totally doesn't make sense IMO. Didn't Australia use to have this rule but changed it? BTW when I was in Norway last year I was told AAD's were mandatory, period, nothing about RSL's. ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #21 February 26, 2006 QuoteRequired in Australia until you have your D. Note: D = 200 jumps in Australia. An AAD is required until D licence, and between D & E (500 jumps), either an AAD or an RSL is required. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragon2 2 #22 February 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteRequired in Australia until you have your D. Note: D = 200 jumps in Australia. An AAD is required until D licence, and between D & E (500 jumps), either an AAD or an RSL is required. Again, I think this is one weird rule ciel bleu, Saskia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #23 February 26, 2006 QuoteQuoteRequired in Australia until you have your D. Note: D = 200 jumps in Australia. An AAD is required until D licence, and between D & E (500 jumps), either an AAD or an RSL is required. What if you're doing CRW? I wouldn't want either in that case.If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bruno 0 #24 February 26, 2006 Italy: mandatory only for students (30 jump) many DZs require AAD for jumping Bruno Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #25 February 26, 2006 QuoteWhat if you're doing CRW? I wouldn't want either in that case. The DZSO (DZ Safety Officer) can make written exceptions for specific descents. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites