somethinelse 0 #1 February 7, 2006 Iguess there's some buzz going round that my DZO might throw in the towel with running the dz that I've gone to for the last couple of years. I'm not sure what to do about jumping this year, or how to find out what's going on. What do you all advise? I apprecaite your input. Blues - L. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #2 February 7, 2006 Umm...call your DZO and ask him. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #3 February 8, 2006 Call and ask. If he does.. there are other dropzones out there to go play at Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkwing 5 #4 February 8, 2006 Jump where you want to. When you can't jump there anymore, jump the next place you want to. If you run out of places you want to jump, then find something else to do. -- Jeff My Skydiving History Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Snowwhite 0 #5 February 8, 2006 QuoteIguess there's some buzz going round that my DZO might throw in the towel with running the dz that I've gone to for the last couple of years. I'm not sure what to do about jumping this year, or how to find out what's going on. What do you all advise? I apprecaite your input. DUDE!! You need to do more than 10 jumps a year to keep him in business.... Blues - L.skydiveTaylorville.org freefallbeth@yahoo.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt36 6 #6 February 8, 2006 After they close all the DZs..... There's still B.A.S.E. jumping!!!!! Adenaline on command....... just remember the last BASE jump.... and, feel the heart-rate take off.....Practice random acts of kindness, and senseless beauty... And, give money for Mr Douglas! www.mrdouglas.org Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #7 February 8, 2006 Visit USPA's website (www.uspa.org) to find other drop zones in Michigan, or read the list of USPA member DZs in the back of every issue of PARACHUTIST magazine. OH! And you need to make more than 10 jumps per year to keep a DZ in business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #8 February 8, 2006 QuoteIguess there's some buzz going round that my DZO might throw in the towel with running the dz that I've gone to for the last couple of years. I'm not sure what to do about jumping this year, or how to find out what's going on. It might help if you mentioned which DZ you were talking about. And was it too much trouble in the thread title to type "to" instead of "2"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L.O. 0 #9 February 9, 2006 32 jumps in 3 years...., your not jumpn anyway, don't worry about it. Did I write that out loud, oops, sorry. I'm an as%*$e sometimesHPDBs, I hate those guys. AFB, charter member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UntamedDOG 0 #10 February 9, 2006 QuoteWhat do you all advise? Tip 1 Do not leave your equipment at the dropzone. This advice is aimed more towards instructors and vidiots. However, it is important to note if you plan to have your reserve re-packed by their rigger. Tip 2 Don’t expect honesty from a DZO that’s going out of business. He will not tell you the truth simply because it’s none of your business. If rumors are floating around, gear could get stolen and instructors might not want to teach out of fear of not getting paid. Tip 3 Take note of the condition of their aircraft. Maintenance is usually the first thing to be neglected when a DZO is trying to appease debt collectors. Tip 4 Make sure to get the phone numbers of all your jump buddies. You will want to get in touch with them once the DZ folds so you can arrange to meet up and jump somewhere new. UntamedDOG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #11 February 9, 2006 That's a pretty good list. I'd treat the DZO honestly, and even ask him about the possibility of the DZ closing. But the other stuff is really good advice. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thepollster 0 #12 February 9, 2006 QuoteQuoteWhat do you all advise? Tip 1 Do not leave your equipment at the dropzone. This advice is aimed more towards instructors and vidiots. However, it is important to note if you plan to have your reserve re-packed by their rigger. Tip 2 Don’t expect honesty from a DZO that’s going out of business. He will not tell you the truth simply because it’s none of your business. If rumors are floating around, gear could get stolen and instructors might not want to teach out of fear of not getting paid. Tip 3 Take note of the condition of their aircraft. Maintenance is usually the first thing to be neglected when a DZO is trying to appease debt collectors. Tip 4 Make sure to get the phone numbers of all your jump buddies. You will want to get in touch with them once the DZ folds so you can arrange to meet up and jump somewhere new. UntamedDOG I'd add don't leave money on account or have extra jump tickets that you bought. The shut down could come suddenly, and you will lose any unused funds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattmais 0 #13 February 10, 2006 charge as many jumps as possible before they close...luck would have it that they would stay open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srsand1960 0 #14 February 10, 2006 I understand where you are coming from. My DZ closed to students after the DZO, who was also the main instructor, was killed in a plane crash . Though I was sad and all, it still left me homeless and I did feel alone in this new sport that I found I loved. I still haven’t found a DZ that I can call home. But after visiting DZ websites, personally speaking with other jumpers about their home DZs and going to Z-Hills in Florida (awesome), I know what I want and know what I don’t want. It’s your life, your time and your money, you don’t have to settle for less then what you want. Like others have said on this thread too, there are many other DZ operations. Go out and visit them a time or two, make a jump or two, watch how others are treated by the staff. If you find yourself sitting alone with the main concern being the business capital $$$ rather then safety, sharing knowledge or having fun, get in your car and boogie down the road. There are some people in the world that are willing to teach and share information and others who are not. I think DZs are like that too; some are willing to help you grow at the pace you are comfortable with and others that aren't. Perhaps you won’t have to worry about it at all but perhaps this is the year you should explore your options. It doesn't matter how anyone else lives their life.... it matter how you live yours! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattmais 0 #15 February 11, 2006 Just find another DZ...when i started jumping... a Guy "burned In" where i was training. The DZ closed. Ended up buying a used rig for cheap. (a friend of mine purchased the guys rig that "bit the dust" for really cheap!!!!) Check with the DZO and see if he is unloading anything. Its like moving, its not the location, but the people you meet that will make the situation fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #16 February 22, 2006 I ain't no dude... I'm a divorced MOM. Don't get me wrong, I do like skydiving, but at this point in my life even though I AM a bit of a thrill seeker, I can't afford to jump that much or buy gear, either. But still, I want to be able to jump when I can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #17 February 22, 2006 But believe it or not, this sport is for everybody. Whether I make one jump on a paycheck or one hundred a month, I am still wanting to skydive. There are many of us skydivers who aren't rich, yet still do what we can when we can to get in the air. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #18 February 22, 2006 Good tips. Thanx. Talked to DZO late in the season last year, know some of whats goin on thats influencing him. Just need to take the rest of your tips and strting thinking towards when that tme arrives to move on I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
L.O. 0 #19 February 23, 2006 I feel perhaps I should explain myself, a little. I was a bit callous in my last post, sorry about that. Here' s the reason. The USPA puts out suggestions about time between jumps to give people a guideline to help them stay safe. If you exceed the durations that are considered safe, you are at risk. If you exceed these durations by a lot every time for a long period of time you become a liability. I live this sport, I love this sport. This sport represents a large part of my life. If you put yourself at risk you put me at risk to. if you go in, it makes it all the more difficult for the rest of us to go on. The more incidents involving skydiving, the more difficult it becomes to keep jumping. I don't want you to stop jumping, I want you to jump more. If money is an issue then learn how to pack. Then you can make at least a couple jumps every weekend. good luck I hope you can jump a little more. Sorry again for being so aggressive, But I want you to know how you could effect the rest of us. When it comes to the sports well-being I don't hold back.HPDBs, I hate those guys. AFB, charter member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #20 February 24, 2006 QuoteIf money is an issue then learn how to pack. Then you can make at least a couple jumps every weekend. good luck I hope you can jump a little more. Agreed 100%. My wife and I dont have money to jump but we had learned to pack to pay our way through the s/l program. Wife also sewed jumpsuits. If you want to jump there is always a way. We still dont have money to jump but as instructors and video we do just fine. Somthingelse is always welcome to come check out our dz. we arent that far away._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somethinelse 0 #21 March 3, 2006 Thanx Mark & LO, too, for the jump money making tips. Last year was a bad money making year! It was one thing after another! My life seemed ruled by "Murphy's Law". I think this will be a better jumping year for me. Hopefully I'll be able to do more than my usual one or two (three if I was really lucky) jumps a weekend. I'll have to see what I can come up with I guess to get me in the air more. Blues! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites