recite cloud clearance rules for A license..

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i cant seem to find this information in the uspa 2006 SIM or anywhere lese for that matter...

where am i supposed to learn this information?im pretty sure it was taught to me during aff but i cant seem to remember..i was trying to absorb so much other shit that it just slipped my mind..adn now i cant seem to find it..

any help from anyone on this one?

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[mattjw916 2]

these?

http://www.risingup.com/fars/info/part105-17-FAR.shtml

NSCR-2376, SCR-15080

[apollard24 0]

Check out FAR 105.17...In my SIM it's page 191 but I have last years...Hope I put that right...Section 9

Anyway, you get the idea

Sorry didn't mean to post the same results..Matt beat me to the punch...he he

Breathe out so I can breathe you in...

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i cant seem to find this information in the uspa 2006 SIM or anywhere lese for that matter...

Page 193 of the 2006 SIM. Sec. 105.17

Owned by Remi #?

[mark 107]

It's in the ISP (SIM Section 4), Cat D.

Mark

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I'm too lazy to hit any of these links, so would somebody just please spit it out ?

If I can see the dropzone, I'm jumping. Unless the pilot won't allow it of course. Just hope there's not a 747 or a C-17 lurking down there under the clouds....

Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !

[mark 107]

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[W]ould somebody just please spit it out?

US cloud clearance and visibility requirements are given for altitudes above sea level, so you'll need to make an adjustment for your non-sea level dz. Visibility is in statute miles, not nautical. The cloud clearance and visibility requirements apply during freefall and under canopy. If you violate the requirements, your pilot could be in big trouble with the FAA. Sometimes it looks as though we've punched clouds, but it's usually just parallax, a kind of optical illusion. We should never brag about punching clouds, since we would never do it deliberately and it only gives ammunition to the McNasties and hostile airport boards.

Below 10,000 MSL: Skydivers must be at least 1000 feet above clouds below them, at least 500 feet below clouds above them, and at least 2000 feet horizontally from clouds. The flight visibility must be at least 3 miles.

Above 10,000 MSL: Skydivers must be at least 1000 feet above clouds below them, at least 1000 feet below clouds above them, and at least 1 mile horizontally from clouds. The flight visibility must be at least 5 miles.

These requirements are not for the benefit of skydivers. They are for the safety of IFR traffic legally allowed to fly through clouds. IFR aircraft are required to see and avoid when they are in visual conditions, and the cloud clearance and visibility requirements are intended to allow them the time to break out of a cloud and have some reaction time for collision avoidance.

Mark

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i cant seem to find this information in the uspa 2006 SIM or anywhere lese for that matter...

where am i supposed to learn this information?im pretty sure it was taught to me during aff but i cant seem to remember..i was trying to absorb so much other shit that it just slipped my mind..adn now i cant seem to find it..

As Mark said, it's in the ISP section. A lot of things getting hidden away in there, unfortunately. However, if you go to the Appendix B, it lists the relevent sections for the tests on each license level.

[jdatc 0]

I find it easier to remember it as b.a.h. below/above/horizontal

so below 10k msl bah 5/1/2

500 ft below, 1000 above or 2k horizontal

above 10k

1/1/1 1000 below, 1000 above, 1 statute mile horizontal (if you want to be picky)

vis is 3 /5 and it makes sense that if the cloud lcearances go up, the vis should go up.

But then again, when all you do is aviation, you try to think of easy ways to remember everything... at least for me, it's the easy way. so try and remember 512.111.35 kind of like a phone number....

See you out at SDLI.

-justin

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hey Justin,
Whats with "99" jump thingy , are you going to do 100 at safety day or are you keeping it a secret. Secrets are hard
to keep in this biz. I will make sure that the group knows
that you are @ 99. LMAO, See you at safety day Bro.

Larry (fingers)

Be Well Buddy

PS: well said on the cloud clearance rule

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I'm too lazy to hit any of these links, so would somebody just please spit it out ?

If I can see the dropzone, I'm jumping. Unless the pilot won't allow it of course. Just hope there's not a 747 or a C-17 lurking down there under the clouds....

It gets a bit more complicated than just staying the required number of feet away from a cloud as required by one of the regulations. You have made it pretty clear you are too lazy to look up a regulation, but how about spending a few minutes looking up a briefing about how that regulation fits into safety, and why hoping there isn't a 747 nearby isn't enough. See Article 19 "Jumping Near Clouds" at http://theblueskyranch.com/STA.php
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Tom Buchanan
Instructor Emeritus
Comm Pilot MSEL,G
Author: JUMP! Skydiving Made Fun and Easy

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See you out at SDLI.

-justin

still waiting for an email from lauren...

i wish you guys were open today...

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Humans are, of course, quite adept at accurately measuring their distance from clouds using only their eyes.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

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Humans are, of course, quite adept at accurately measuring their distance from clouds using only their eyes.

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Clouds? I don't see no stink'n clouds!

[HydroGuy 0]

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Humans are, of course, quite adept at accurately measuring their distance from clouds using only their eyes.

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Clouds? I don't see no stink'n clouds!

Yep...that's just haze

Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary

[jumperconway 0]

Yep...that's just haze

[aeromobile 0]

Another good memory aid is 152. You are all aware of the Cessna 182. Most student pilots learn in the Cessna 152, and we teach them to remember 152. 1,000 above, 500 below, and 2'000 horizontal.

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i cant seem to find this information in the uspa 2006 SIM or anywhere lese for that matter...

where am i supposed to learn this information?im pretty sure it was taught to me during aff but i cant seem to remember..i was trying to absorb so much other shit that it just slipped my mind..adn now i cant seem to find it..

any help from anyone on this one?

You are not looking hard enough, jeez, this is an easy one to find. Have yo uread the BSRs? Malfunctions reviews? FAR's? Anything?

Anyone for tennis???

Mykel AFF-I10
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