Non DZ jumps

[davelepka 4]

All the legal stuff aside, are you personally ready to make decisions regarding spotting, selection of the landing area, proper jump AC procedure and the like?

Remember that on a DZ, many of these desicions are made for you. There are experienced jumpers and jump pilots present to oversee the operations, and will catch errors or mistakes in the making before they develop into actual problems.

Will anyone in your group recognize a gear issue in the plane? What will be the recourse in the evnt of a cutaway, off-field landing on in the case of an injury?

Make sure you've got all your bases covered, and remember that a three hour dirve isn't that bad when you consider the advanatges of being surrounded by experienced jumpers and DZ staff.

[BigSky 2]

Wow, thanks for all the info. At this point we will have the pilot get the "Authorization for Flight with Door Removed". We already have the permission of the airport management to do this. When we get the plane ready to go I will give you a call Mike for some help with the form you talked about. Thanks again for all the info.

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[BigSky 2]

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All the legal stuff aside, are you personally ready to make decisions regarding spotting, selection of the landing area, proper jump AC procedure and the like?

Remember that on a DZ, many of these desicions are made for you. There are experienced jumpers and jump pilots present to oversee the operations, and will catch errors or mistakes in the making before they develop into actual problems.

Will anyone in your group recognize a gear issue in the plane? What will be the recourse in the evnt of a cutaway, off-field landing on in the case of an injury?

Make sure you've got all your bases covered, and remember that a three hour dirve isn't that bad when you consider the advanatges of being surrounded by experienced jumpers and DZ staff.

I have thought about all the things you mentioned and they are valid concerns.

I am very comfortable spotting. This is a huge landing area and there will only be two of us getting out of the plane so that will not be a problem.

I am also confident in my ability to give a gear check and also my partners ability to do the same.

We will have a person on the ground to call for help in case of a emergency and also be in contact with the plane in case of condition change on the ground.

This is something that we will only be doing a couple of times a month and only in Ideal conditions. We are not looking for a substitute to our normal dropzone, just something to get us by when we cant get there.

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[wmw999 2,446]

The only thing I'd suggest would be for you to talk to someone with plenty of experience for awhile in person; maybe have them quiz you about equipment checks and spotting to make sure that you don't have any blind spots that you're not aware of. Particularly if it's been awhile since you jumped.

This is not unheard of; it's just not common. But by talking about them, you'll have a much better short-term memory of some things. Otherwise, if you only jump with your friend for awhile (e.g. transportation problems, weather), then you might end up having a pretty small pool of outside wisdom to draw on. Not a terminal problem (badda-bing!), but not ideal either.

Wendy W.

There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

[BigSky 2]

Ya I'm going to have a thorough discussion with my DZO about this. He has jumped where we are going to before. Im sure he will be supportive because we are just looking for something to do in the times we cant make it up to his place, you know weekdays and things like that.

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[Dr.Strangelove 0]

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If you are paying any money for the jump is excess of what will cover the direct operating expense of the aircraft (fuel and oil) the pilot will need to have a Commercial Pilot License and the aircraft will need a current 100 hour inspection. If not, a Private Pilot and Annual Inspection will suffice.

Mike Mullins
USPA National Director

why wouldn't this fall under the "pro-rata" expenses reg for private pilots?

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[skypuppy 1]

Give the pilot a thorough briefing if he hasn't dropped jumpers before -- usually best to break them in slowly. Wouldn't try to get four out on the step the first load. Stuff like jump run direction and airspeed, foot brake if needed, flat turns, etc.

Have wind drifts or know how to do a rate 1 turn on the way up.

If the door's open -- PROTECT YOUR HANDLES!

If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead.
Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone