Chapsta 0 #26 December 23, 2005 my friends e-mailed me this link to be funny...\ I once chopped due to an unstowed brake. I opened... started a spin that progressively got worse... looked up... nope, not a brake... what is this??? Tension not? Screw it... Chop Chop. Upon reviewing my video it was so obvious... one brake unstowed. I even considered the possibility. At the time it really didn't look like that was the problem. Oh-well. What a blast whipping that reserve out is!! I'm not sure I'll ever hear the end of it from my friends though! Thanx Carrie! ChapsCarpe diem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rtwats 0 #27 December 23, 2005 On jump # 8 I had a broken stering line. It was my third free fall. And I had a round reserve ride . But if there is any dought of being able to steer and flair then pull the handle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #28 December 23, 2005 Yes indeed... but only because I also had line twists and couldn't correct either problem in a timely enough manner Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #29 December 23, 2005 I know several that have, but I have not. It really does not matter. I would rather a person cut it away than ride it in anyday. There is a hard deck for a reason. If at your hard deck altitude you do not feel that the canopy is safe to land GET RID OF IT no matter what the problem is. Once the canopy is found and it was discovered that the brake had fired I would ask if they tried to fix it....I would remind them that while they did the correct thing IMO since they are alive that it would not hurt to check that next time before they chop if they are above the hard deck...At the hard deck it is time to chop if they are not comfertable.... IMO anyone that rags on someone for cutting away is an asshole. ADVISING them of other options is a good idea, but ragging on them? Grow up."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcezmac 0 #30 December 23, 2005 I cut away when my slider came down and it pulled one of my toggles with it. It did suprise me with how quick it started to spin. All my eyes focused on was how the toggle was caught. "Cla-clink" . It did not even dawn on me at the time to grab the other toggle until a few days latter. Yes, when I think of all I neede to do was maybe grab the other toggle, I do feel silly. I also planned before my jump that if I did have a problem not to spend to much time with it. I had no AAD or a RSL and I was not got to get caught to low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #31 December 24, 2005 ***I would rather a person cut it away than ride it in anyday. Is that " your phrase" because if it is you just coined a new one. Well Said!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowpullin1 0 #32 December 24, 2005 I have had a cutaway because of a toggle i couldn't unstow. "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you are surrounded by turkeys." My Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jwynne 0 #33 December 24, 2005 Unfortunately I had a lot of experience with this last year. I had maybe 8 openings with one unstowed toggle in 40 jumps. Never really figured out why, but I was making multiple changes to my toggle and riser system untill I got it stopped. I never chopped. The one time my slider came screaming down, took the toggle keeper off and came down entangled with the other stowed toggle was a bad one. Took me about 1200 feet to sort it out. I knew what it was and I knew I'd opened high or it would of been a chop. The other blessing was I was jumping 4way so at least I wasn't opening in the middle of lots of canopies. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #34 December 24, 2005 QuoteA friend of mine had a cutaway with 30-ish jumps from an unstowed toggle. Yes, it's something that she potentially could've fixed. But she felt she needed to get rid of it. That's what we were taught. Our school teaches to pump the toggles twice on any low speed partial malfunction. That will take care of unstowed brake issues and sometimes fix other things too. Does your school not teach to do that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #35 December 24, 2005 Dual unstowed toggles once. Under Manta. As a student. I didn't pack it myself. Did not cut away, good parachute right away -- but they were just dangling there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bert_man 0 #36 December 24, 2005 On jump #35 one of my toggles got yanked thru the keeper ring and got stuck in the slider as it was coming down. I dont think that counts tho. About 150 jumps later, I reached for my hackey and instead ended up with a brake line in my hand, with the toggle flapping in the breeze. After deploying I just released the other toggle and it was no big deal. I think I actually took the time to collapse my slider and loosen my altimeter before releasing the left one... Did I mention that I jump gear from 1982? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flynskydive 0 #37 December 24, 2005 That was my first and so far only cutaway. Things happen a little faster when that toggle pops, lines twist, and you're spinning on your back under a velocity 90. Yeh I got rid of it. USPA Strong T-I, AFF-I, Coach, Videographer/photographer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
