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If she told the unvarnished truth from day one, it would've never left the Incidents forum. Her spreading of misinformation -- whether she meant to or not -- is the cause of all of this.
She wasn't saying anything the first day; she was in intensive care. If anyone was dispersing false information it had to be Rick.
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I have been trying to remember when the first interview took place, and I think I remember it being a phone call to the hospital from, maybe, the Ash Grove paper. It was either Ash Grove or Springfield. I don't know if my sister (Shayna's mom) or Shayna's old high school teacher called in the accident. Anyway, the first interview was with Rick, not with Shayna. Shayna, being Rick's girlfriend of not very long would naturally go along with whatever he said happened -- I think that is typically a pretty natural thing to do (unlike after a couple has been married for many years!).
Rick presented the event as though it happened because parachutes did not open properly; however, when he talked to me about it he did add that a more experienced jumper probably could have handled the situation better. The thing that bothers me the most about this accident is the stuff I am hearing about the chute having not been appropriate for use by Shayna -- it is very hard for me not to be a little mad a Rick for that, that is, if it is true that the chute was inappropriate for Shayna's use. With so many of you saying that it was I have to believe that it is true.![[:/]](/uploads/emoticons/dry.png "[:/]")
Quoteit is very hard for me not to be a little mad a Rick for that, that is, if it is true that the chute was inappropriate for Shayna's use
A little mad??? He almost killed your neice.... Id be a little more then just alittle mad
Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this
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Post: Insurance it very available if you want it. Almost every group policy from an employer will cover it. I've used it before and they never blinked twice. There is also major medical coverage availble for just this type of situation. It does'nt cover DR visits but it covers ER and surgery costs. If you are with out medical insurance and you are skydiving you have no one but yourself yo blame when you hurt yourself and you medical bills pile up.
If you have enough money to skydive you have enough money to get at least major medical coverage. If you choose not to, don't come asking for money later. <<<<<<<<<
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BIG DITTO.... I broke my left ankle in July, no medical insurance. $17,000 and 2 screws later I'm still paying the hospital. I checked into insurance since, and it $118 dollars a month for both of us, with an annual deduction of $3500. After that the insurance pays 100%. I could have afforded that, instead now I'm scared to jump on this ankle until all the swelling and stiffness goes away, I can't go another 4 months without work. Also I asked if they had any exclusions for dangerous sports and I asked specifically asked about skydiving, he could not find anything that would exclude my clam for a skydiving related accident, only that some types of dangerous employment may jack up the premium.
If you have enough money to skydive you have enough money to get at least major medical coverage. If you choose not to, don't come asking for money later. <<<<<<<<<
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BIG DITTO.... I broke my left ankle in July, no medical insurance. $17,000 and 2 screws later I'm still paying the hospital. I checked into insurance since, and it $118 dollars a month for both of us, with an annual deduction of $3500. After that the insurance pays 100%. I could have afforded that, instead now I'm scared to jump on this ankle until all the swelling and stiffness goes away, I can't go another 4 months without work. Also I asked if they had any exclusions for dangerous sports and I asked specifically asked about skydiving, he could not find anything that would exclude my clam for a skydiving related accident, only that some types of dangerous employment may jack up the premium.
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Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan
Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan
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it is very hard for me not to be a little mad a Rick for that, that is, if it is true that the chute was inappropriate for Shayna's use
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A little mad??? He almost killed your neice.... Id be a little more then just alittle mad <<<<
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There may also be some disaplinary action by the USPA if they get wind of this situation. Instructors are responsibal for wingloading and sizing student reserves. If the Student weighed 115 lbs then with the added weight of gear it would have put her over 1-1 on a PDR 126. I feel 0.8-1 is tops WL for student in winds under 14 MPH. I do not know how much she weighs, but really a 190-126 combination just sounds wrong. The way superfletch describes what the rig looked like closed, how the closing flaps wouldn't overlap, dosen't surprise me when I found out she had a toggle fire on deployment, it just seems like too much shit crammed in there and something would probably work it way loose. However that is just speculation, based on an educated geuss.
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it is very hard for me not to be a little mad a Rick for that, that is, if it is true that the chute was inappropriate for Shayna's use
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A little mad??? He almost killed your neice.... Id be a little more then just alittle mad <<<<
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There may also be some disaplinary action by the USPA if they get wind of this situation. Instructors are responsibal for wingloading and sizing student reserves. If the Student weighed 115 lbs then with the added weight of gear it would have put her over 1-1 on a PDR 126. I feel 0.8-1 is tops WL for student in winds under 14 MPH. I do not know how much she weighs, but really a 190-126 combination just sounds wrong. The way superfletch describes what the rig looked like closed, how the closing flaps wouldn't overlap, dosen't surprise me when I found out she had a toggle fire on deployment, it just seems like too much shit crammed in there and something would probably work it way loose. However that is just speculation, based on an educated geuss.
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Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan
Someone dies, someone says how stupid, someone says it was avoidable, someone says how to avoid it, someone calls them an idiot, someone proposes rule chan
I agree, hell Im still loaded low... I think im at a .725 or .752 ... either way what he did was horrific and I cant believe he isnt getting mroe shit... cant believe she is still with him... then again I dont know if she realzies he basically was giving her a potential incident when he put her out of a plane in that... granted Im to new to have to much of a valid opinion but damn... a 126 ? and theres no way she weighs less then 100 lbs so I doubt it was loaded at less then 1 - 1
Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this
Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this
My point about the jumping with trust that everything would work perfectly was that it is obvious that things go wrong. You've never done a first jump course, but if you had you would realise that a lot of it is spent teaching you what can go wrong (i.e: you KNOW things can go wrong, you KNOW things don't always happen perfectly). And there are warning labels, really big and bright, on each rig. That is why I was surprised at the statement that she jumped believing nothing could go wrong. I just don't understand how someone could have that belief after having gone through the training and before this have jumped bnfore so seen those big bright orange warning labels... that's all.
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