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If it opens,great, that's what I was expecting and can safely land hopefully. If it doesn't open, I am just on my way home
. I do not fear death
Mother to the cutest little thing in the world...
If it opens,great, that's what I was expecting and can safely land hopefully. If it doesn't open, I am just on my way home
. I do not fear deathMother to the cutest little thing in the world...
RMURRAY 1
Do you ever worry that your reserve won't open?
no, I know it will open. however, I wonder about landing it. so now I am in the market for a used SMART reserve.
Thats a whole other topic - I worried so much about jumping my brand new rig, with a brand new main and reserve that I didn't - I got Pine at deland to jump it first
But back to the OP - no, I dont worry about the reserve 'not opening' - I've watched my reserve be repacked, and take great interest in my gear and everything my rigger does (not just to my gear, but to other peoples - I love spending rainy days watching my rigger work) - I have total confidence in his ability, and total confidence in my equipment. If it DOESN'T open - like someone said above - it'll probably only bother me for 15 seconds or so...
kkeenan 14
Since I've been doing CRW, I've seen more reserves used in more weird circumstances than I could've imagined. All have worked fine. I realize that doesn't change the statistical chance of a malfunction, but in my mind, it has made the possibility more remote.
The only reserve deployment problems I've seen were caused by the jumper interferring with the deployment.
Kevin
The only reserve deployment problems I've seen were caused by the jumper interferring with the deployment.
Kevin
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Dude, you are so awesome...
Can I be on your ash jump ?
Dude, you are so awesome...
Can I be on your ash jump ?
A friend of mine who had often jumped with my team in the 1970s and 1980s, jumped at a demo in February a few years ago, , and he landed in water. He made another demo the following week, and he cutaway his main, and when he pulled his reserve, it was a frozen blob. He fought with it and finally got it to open about 74 feet above ground. Two hard osscilations and he hit the pavement, breaking his pelvis.
He made a couple of more jumps in the following weeks, and finally decided to to see a doctor. He ended up having both hips replaces TWICE.
He now waddles like a duck when he walks....in severe pain.
I told him to say "Quack Quack" every so often and no one would notice.
When he told me about his mal, he neglected to tell me he jumped his frozen reserve. I was informed of that by another old timer, and when I told my friend I knew what had happened, he just grinned and said'
Well, thats the way it was...no big deal"
Jumping a frozen reserve....his name is Gary FREEZE, of Greenspings, Ohio.
Bill Cole D-41
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He made a couple of more jumps in the following weeks, and finally decided to to see a doctor. He ended up having both hips replaces TWICE.
He now waddles like a duck when he walks....in severe pain.
I told him to say "Quack Quack" every so often and no one would notice.
When he told me about his mal, he neglected to tell me he jumped his frozen reserve. I was informed of that by another old timer, and when I told my friend I knew what had happened, he just grinned and said'
Well, thats the way it was...no big deal"
Jumping a frozen reserve....his name is Gary FREEZE, of Greenspings, Ohio.
Bill Cole D-41
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Amazon 7
Hmmm Nope I know its going to open. They have opened 8 times for me so far...
JohnRich 4
he cutaway his main, and when he pulled his reserve... and finally got it to open about 74 feet above ground.
Could you be a little more precise about how high the canopy opened?
tbrown 26
Our sport is completely dependent on our equipment. We can't jump without it, not more than once anyway. We have to learn to trust it. It's not an entirely rational process either. You can tell yourself over and over all the facts and statistics in the world, never even have a mal with your main (knock wood), and have the world's best rigger looking after your gear and your reserve. But none of that can stop your stomach from getting that little tug when you roll the door up and see the ground 2 1/2 miles below. You just never know. A lot of people can't face up to that, it's why most people don't jump. We make the choice put that doubt behind us. If we can't get past it, then maybe it's time to move on (which happens to some people too). As long as it doesn't bug you, keep on jumping.
Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !
Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity !
You can tell yourself over and over all the facts and statistics in the world, never even have a mal with your main
Hmm, I would consider a linetwist as a malfunction too. So it won't ever happen.
But none of that can stop your stomach from getting that little tug when you roll the door up and see the ground 2 1/2 miles below.
This spring after 15+ jumps I was just sitting in the door of a C207 and feeling nothing and checking and waiting for my stop to come.
Its better faceing your fears than living with them.
Oh, I do agree with the rest
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Harksaw 0
The cypres cable was not secured in a channel (Vector 2 not set up for AAD originally) and entangled with the pilot chute. I heard the "pop" of the pin clearing the loop and the p/c pushing the flaps part way open, but NOTHING came out!
Isn't the pilot chute normally on the opposite side of the d-bag as the cypres cable/ cutter?
No, I don't worry about it any more than any other freak accident that could kill me.
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I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait.
I started skydiving for the money and the chicks. Oh, wait.
Eule 0
One thing that has really helped put me at ease about the reserve
is that I have done two intentional cutaways at the Eloy holiday boogie.
When doing that I did have a third belly mount reserve but still, it's nice
to know what it feels like and that there is indeed another canopy in there
Is this a regular thing that they do at that boogie? Do you have to go
through a lot of training on the belly-mount before you can wear it? Is
there a minimum license or jump number required to do this?
I'm just curious, because I think it would be interesting to see what
a cutaway feels like under somewhat controlled circumstances. I don't
worry significantly about the reserve not coming out, but I do wonder
what it feels like. For a high-speed main malfunction it probably just
feels like a normal opening, but for a low-speed, I think the feeling
of slowing down, maybe getting stood up, and then going back into
freefall would be unusual.
I've only seen the set-ups at two DZs. One just had harnesses between
the floor and ceiling that you sort of lean forward on, and do your
practices with a dummy cutaway handle - just velcro, no cables. I liked
the harnesses at the other one better. They had harnesses suspended
from the ceiling, with both "main" and "reserve" straps. We practiced
most of our emergency procedures with dummy cutaway handles (just
velcro, no cables), but on the last couple of cutaways, we pulled a "real"
cutaway handle that disconnected the 3-rings and caused us to drop a
few inches until the "reserve" straps caught us. I realize this is much
faster than a reserve would deploy, but I think it gives a bit of the
feeling of what happens, and definitely shows you what it feels like to
release the 3-rings.
Eule
PLF does not stand for Please Land on Face.
moonglo 0
In that rig (vector 2-2 from 1992) the cypres sat in the bottom of the reserve container, but the cutter was under the flaps over the pilot chute, if i remember correctly (like the new mirage set up). That rig was condemned about a year ago for a main lift web stitching failure and I haven't really looked at it since.
billvon 3,070
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>Isn't the pilot chute normally on the opposite side of the d-bag as
>the cypres cable/ cutter?
Generally, no. On a few rigs (Javelin, Reflex) it's on the bottom, but it is more often on one of the closing flaps.
>the cypres cable/ cutter?
Generally, no. On a few rigs (Javelin, Reflex) it's on the bottom, but it is more often on one of the closing flaps.
The broken A lines were on a canopy size and model I had 2000+ jumps on, plus I had extra time to feel out the flare/slow flight characteristics due to my higher opening altitude.
Mid-air rigging has been the last thing that a bunch of guys did with their lives. It's a tough call, but it's your last canopy you're about to whip out, so you'd better be sure you really need/want it.
The other side of that coin is that the longer you play with a mal, the lower you'll be under your reserve (or now working main) giving you less time to set up and land. Also, a spinning mal will be loading you 3-ring, and trying to push all the blood out of your brain. If the most should happen and you have a reserve mal, you also end up with less time to fix that before impact. It's a slippery slope.
I'd say that unitl you have a few hundred jumps, it should all be by the book. Beyond that, it's a case by case scenario, and you should make your own choices as to how to handle yourself.
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