akjmpplt 0 #26 October 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteAhem - BEER - (Just had to say it.) Wow! Tail-dragging Cessna 172s are really, really rare ... since all 172s left the factory with nose-wheels. Many 172s have been converted to tail-wheel.SmugMug Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pincheck 0 #27 October 26, 2005 Yes i'am afraid your spoiled wish i was, don't laugh, thats all we have c185 and c206(door luxury). we usually have 5 in ours so 4 should have been spacious. These are get to know your nieghbour planes ? "what sort of curry he had the night before" fun planes to jump but always get a cut and a jumpmaster who can spot. As for bathangs not unless you want to jump again our pilots don't like you playing with their babies Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Mike111 0 #28 October 26, 2005 PA32 piper cherokee. Still a big plane - 5 seater. Only ever jumped from that a 10 seater islander. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ScottyInAus 0 #29 October 26, 2005 I've only ever jumped a C182, love it. Just on those saying it's hard to jump from a smaller plane, We take a 5-ways out of the C182 a fair bit Attached is a pic of our C182 Cheers, Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vt1977 0 #30 October 26, 2005 As far as Cessnas go – I’ve jumped a 206, 207, 208 and 208B. The smallest planes I’ve jumped would be two biplanes – a Pitts Special (inverted!) and a Tiger Moth. I’ve not yet had the opportunity to jump a 182 – but I’d like to do it once for the experience! Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #31 October 26, 2005 I have jumped Cessna 172,182,206. We have a C172 in our club. Others don't like is so much because its quite slow, but I think it does not reallt matter for a 1000m jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Dumpster 0 #32 October 26, 2005 QuoteChances are, you jumped a Cessna 170, which came standard with a tail-wheel and only a handful had nose-wheels installed by Met-Co-Air That's it! - And come to think of it, I do think the empannage was rounded. The 170 I jumped used to live at Frontier Skydiving in NY. I heard it's departed from this world now. So sad Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skysurfcam 0 #33 October 26, 2005 You haven't lived till... C182, no door, -18 celcius at 12000' A moment I wont forget Out the window Art. There's a whole world out there where avgas rules... Brother Wayward's rule of the day... "Never ever ever go skydiving without going parachuting immediately afterwards." 100% PURE ADRENALENS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #34 October 26, 2005 At an accuracy meet I was climbing into a 182 along with a jumper from the USAF academy, who had never jumped a piston Cessna. Naturally he needed some help in figuring out the seating arrangement. Anyone with piston Cessna experience knows that the strut gets a lot use, with people holding it, leaning on it, or hanging right off it. The young jumper asked, a little wide eyed, whether he could touch the strut when climbing out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thepollster 0 #35 October 26, 2005 QuoteWe'll try that bat-hang one of these days! You'd better ask the pilot and plane owner before doing that. Some don't like people doing that because it can (often) damage the leading edge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites StevePhelps 0 #36 October 26, 2005 855 jumps, and all but about 15 have been out of a Cessna. When I went to Dallas, the shoe was on the other foot. I had to closely watch everyone to see what I was supposed to do. I wish we had a King Air, just the right size IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #37 October 26, 2005 Evelyn, You're so cute with your commentaries. (will elaborate more in a couple of hours after important lunch and work stuff). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #38 October 26, 2005 QuoteAnyone with piston Cessna experience knows that the strut gets a lot use, with people holding it, leaning on it, or hanging right off it. I've got the other way around. We had a visiting A/C: Twin Otter. We had to give a push-back after refuel. We were told not to push from the wing strut. I've asked for the reason: not strung enough for that... :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Croc 0 #39 October 26, 2005 ??? Hanging exit is the first exit a SL student learns from a C-182. Or are we not talking about the same thing?"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Elisha 1 #40 October 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteWe only go to 10.000 ft. cuz aparently it would take a long time to go higher. Oh yeah, forgot about that... there's only one time I've been higher than 10K in a 182 was for a formation load ash dive and it took for-freakin-EVER to get to 13K, then with more time in the air to get the formation together, I thought we were never gonna get out of that plane. No signs of hypoxia, I'm happy to report. We'll try that bat-hang one of these days! I've been to 15K (or 14ish) in a 182. I think we wern't too heavy though, so it was ONLY about 30 min. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites sgt_ludy 0 #41 October 26, 2005 hehe... : L 23 BLANÍK - only one skydiver see attachment for pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #42 October 26, 2005 Quote??? Hanging exit is the first exit a SL student learns from a C-182. Or are we not talking about the same thing? Different exit. Bat-hang is when you hang by your feet off the leading edge of the wing. Definitely *not* for students! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NWFlyer 2 #43 October 26, 2005 Quote QuoteWe'll try that bat-hang one of these days! You'd better ask the pilot and plane owner before doing that. Some don't like people doing that because it can (often) damage the leading edge. Excellent point. Anything other than a standard exit should always be discussed with the pilot and/or owner of the aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites catfishhunter 2 #44 October 26, 2005 5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY 4 people with me in the plane and we are packed like Sardines! MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #45 October 26, 2005 Quote5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY It depends on the 182. Later 182s, with the wider body and rear window are roomier. Modifications such as wing tip extensions can increase the gross weight enough to take 5 people averaging average weight or slightly less with a low fuel load. A 182 with 5 jumpers can be packed. If one knows how to fit in, however, I find it often more comfortable than sitting crammed chest-to-container along a hard centerline bench in a King Air, or tilting sideways, shoulders jammed, in Twin Otter side benches. Climb time is naturally longer in the 182. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ScottyInAus 0 #46 October 27, 2005 Haha you should see it when we've got some of the bigger guys going up on a 5-way load, 35-40 minutes to 12k Normally about 25mins to 12k The only problem is that your arse hurts after a while and your feet get pins and needles. And some people just can't hold their farts in, it oesnt help that the window opener fell off so we can't open that at the moment We normally only have enough fuel for 1 or 2 loads (hotload if we're busy) Cheers, Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JONWBROWNE 0 #47 October 27, 2005 Do ultralights with just you and the pilot count, what about tiger moths when you sit infront of the pilot .Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #48 October 27, 2005 Quote855 jumps, and all but about 15 have been out of a Cessna. OK, I don't feel so deprived anymore so far, have never jumped anything but cessnas - 182, 206, 207 and 210. Ah, the luxury the one time in the 182 when we put out 2 SL students at 3000' and had all that space for 2 people the rest of the flight up!! btw, someone told me there are only like 10 C270s worldwide - surely this can't be true??? Does anyone know?Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #49 October 28, 2005 I love cessnas... Just went to a boogie to throw pumpkins and do formation loads from cessnas. Its cozy and fun to be with your friends for the 25 min formation climb to altitude. I have done up to a 12 way from cessnas (3 of them even) My dropzone also jumps a cessna all winter long, no problems with that I actually know how to spot. We lose our PAC soon,.. good thing we have 2 of them this weekend for 26 ways. I might just get to be on the first formation PAC load ever... will have to ask around about that if it has been done before. Formation loads are cool and cessnas are a lot of fun to do them in. Watching carefully below the body of the other plane for the jumpers to climb out onto the step to launch the 4way base... Waving at your friends... So many things that people miss out by never jumping 182s. (And its not that you can't do that with big planes but hey, its more "special" when its on small ones, i can't explain it, just feels that way.) ~D~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites velvetjo 0 #50 October 28, 2005 Quote5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY 4 people with me in the plane and we are packed like Sardines! Above the Poconos regularly takes 6 jumpers to 10,000' in their widebody 182 with wingtip extensions, STOL kit, and 300HP engine. It's not too tight, unless you're a big guy in "the hole" up next to the pilot. Early 182's (narrow body) do better on climb efficiency for 4 jumpers vs. stock widebody 182's with 4 jumpers. Mods can make a huge difference between individual aircraft though. As for really small aircraft, try jumping from a powered parachute sometime. They're a blast! Lance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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pincheck 0 #27 October 26, 2005 Yes i'am afraid your spoiled wish i was, don't laugh, thats all we have c185 and c206(door luxury). we usually have 5 in ours so 4 should have been spacious. These are get to know your nieghbour planes ? "what sort of curry he had the night before" fun planes to jump but always get a cut and a jumpmaster who can spot. As for bathangs not unless you want to jump again our pilots don't like you playing with their babies Billy-Sonic Haggis Flickr-Fun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike111 0 #28 October 26, 2005 PA32 piper cherokee. Still a big plane - 5 seater. Only ever jumped from that a 10 seater islander. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyInAus 0 #29 October 26, 2005 I've only ever jumped a C182, love it. Just on those saying it's hard to jump from a smaller plane, We take a 5-ways out of the C182 a fair bit Attached is a pic of our C182 Cheers, Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #30 October 26, 2005 As far as Cessnas go – I’ve jumped a 206, 207, 208 and 208B. The smallest planes I’ve jumped would be two biplanes – a Pitts Special (inverted!) and a Tiger Moth. I’ve not yet had the opportunity to jump a 182 – but I’d like to do it once for the experience! Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #31 October 26, 2005 I have jumped Cessna 172,182,206. We have a C172 in our club. Others don't like is so much because its quite slow, but I think it does not reallt matter for a 1000m jump. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dumpster 0 #32 October 26, 2005 QuoteChances are, you jumped a Cessna 170, which came standard with a tail-wheel and only a handful had nose-wheels installed by Met-Co-Air That's it! - And come to think of it, I do think the empannage was rounded. The 170 I jumped used to live at Frontier Skydiving in NY. I heard it's departed from this world now. So sad Easy Does It Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skysurfcam 0 #33 October 26, 2005 You haven't lived till... C182, no door, -18 celcius at 12000' A moment I wont forget Out the window Art. There's a whole world out there where avgas rules... Brother Wayward's rule of the day... "Never ever ever go skydiving without going parachuting immediately afterwards." 100% PURE ADRENALENS Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #34 October 26, 2005 At an accuracy meet I was climbing into a 182 along with a jumper from the USAF academy, who had never jumped a piston Cessna. Naturally he needed some help in figuring out the seating arrangement. Anyone with piston Cessna experience knows that the strut gets a lot use, with people holding it, leaning on it, or hanging right off it. The young jumper asked, a little wide eyed, whether he could touch the strut when climbing out! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thepollster 0 #35 October 26, 2005 QuoteWe'll try that bat-hang one of these days! You'd better ask the pilot and plane owner before doing that. Some don't like people doing that because it can (often) damage the leading edge. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #36 October 26, 2005 855 jumps, and all but about 15 have been out of a Cessna. When I went to Dallas, the shoe was on the other foot. I had to closely watch everyone to see what I was supposed to do. I wish we had a King Air, just the right size IMHO. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #37 October 26, 2005 Evelyn, You're so cute with your commentaries. (will elaborate more in a couple of hours after important lunch and work stuff). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #38 October 26, 2005 QuoteAnyone with piston Cessna experience knows that the strut gets a lot use, with people holding it, leaning on it, or hanging right off it. I've got the other way around. We had a visiting A/C: Twin Otter. We had to give a push-back after refuel. We were told not to push from the wing strut. I've asked for the reason: not strung enough for that... :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Croc 0 #39 October 26, 2005 ??? Hanging exit is the first exit a SL student learns from a C-182. Or are we not talking about the same thing?"Here's a good specimen of my own wisdom. Something is so, except when it isn't so." Charles Fort, commenting on the many contradictions of astronomy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #40 October 26, 2005 QuoteQuoteWe only go to 10.000 ft. cuz aparently it would take a long time to go higher. Oh yeah, forgot about that... there's only one time I've been higher than 10K in a 182 was for a formation load ash dive and it took for-freakin-EVER to get to 13K, then with more time in the air to get the formation together, I thought we were never gonna get out of that plane. No signs of hypoxia, I'm happy to report. We'll try that bat-hang one of these days! I've been to 15K (or 14ish) in a 182. I think we wern't too heavy though, so it was ONLY about 30 min. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sgt_ludy 0 #41 October 26, 2005 hehe... : L 23 BLANÍK - only one skydiver see attachment for pics... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #42 October 26, 2005 Quote??? Hanging exit is the first exit a SL student learns from a C-182. Or are we not talking about the same thing? Different exit. Bat-hang is when you hang by your feet off the leading edge of the wing. Definitely *not* for students! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #43 October 26, 2005 Quote QuoteWe'll try that bat-hang one of these days! You'd better ask the pilot and plane owner before doing that. Some don't like people doing that because it can (often) damage the leading edge. Excellent point. Anything other than a standard exit should always be discussed with the pilot and/or owner of the aircraft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
catfishhunter 2 #44 October 26, 2005 5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY 4 people with me in the plane and we are packed like Sardines! MAKE EVERY DAY COUNT Life is Short and we never know how long we are going to have. We must live life to the fullest EVERY DAY. Everything we do should have a greater purpose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #45 October 26, 2005 Quote5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY It depends on the 182. Later 182s, with the wider body and rear window are roomier. Modifications such as wing tip extensions can increase the gross weight enough to take 5 people averaging average weight or slightly less with a low fuel load. A 182 with 5 jumpers can be packed. If one knows how to fit in, however, I find it often more comfortable than sitting crammed chest-to-container along a hard centerline bench in a King Air, or tilting sideways, shoulders jammed, in Twin Otter side benches. Climb time is naturally longer in the 182. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScottyInAus 0 #46 October 27, 2005 Haha you should see it when we've got some of the bigger guys going up on a 5-way load, 35-40 minutes to 12k Normally about 25mins to 12k The only problem is that your arse hurts after a while and your feet get pins and needles. And some people just can't hold their farts in, it oesnt help that the window opener fell off so we can't open that at the moment We normally only have enough fuel for 1 or 2 loads (hotload if we're busy) Cheers, Jason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JONWBROWNE 0 #47 October 27, 2005 Do ultralights with just you and the pilot count, what about tiger moths when you sit infront of the pilot .Quote Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Orange1 0 #48 October 27, 2005 Quote855 jumps, and all but about 15 have been out of a Cessna. OK, I don't feel so deprived anymore so far, have never jumped anything but cessnas - 182, 206, 207 and 210. Ah, the luxury the one time in the 182 when we put out 2 SL students at 3000' and had all that space for 2 people the rest of the flight up!! btw, someone told me there are only like 10 C270s worldwide - surely this can't be true??? Does anyone know?Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Fast 0 #49 October 28, 2005 I love cessnas... Just went to a boogie to throw pumpkins and do formation loads from cessnas. Its cozy and fun to be with your friends for the 25 min formation climb to altitude. I have done up to a 12 way from cessnas (3 of them even) My dropzone also jumps a cessna all winter long, no problems with that I actually know how to spot. We lose our PAC soon,.. good thing we have 2 of them this weekend for 26 ways. I might just get to be on the first formation PAC load ever... will have to ask around about that if it has been done before. Formation loads are cool and cessnas are a lot of fun to do them in. Watching carefully below the body of the other plane for the jumpers to climb out onto the step to launch the 4way base... Waving at your friends... So many things that people miss out by never jumping 182s. (And its not that you can't do that with big planes but hey, its more "special" when its on small ones, i can't explain it, just feels that way.) ~D~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites velvetjo 0 #50 October 28, 2005 Quote5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY 4 people with me in the plane and we are packed like Sardines! Above the Poconos regularly takes 6 jumpers to 10,000' in their widebody 182 with wingtip extensions, STOL kit, and 300HP engine. It's not too tight, unless you're a big guy in "the hole" up next to the pilot. Early 182's (narrow body) do better on climb efficiency for 4 jumpers vs. stock widebody 182's with 4 jumpers. Mods can make a huge difference between individual aircraft though. As for really small aircraft, try jumping from a powered parachute sometime. They're a blast! Lance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 2 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
Orange1 0 #48 October 27, 2005 Quote855 jumps, and all but about 15 have been out of a Cessna. OK, I don't feel so deprived anymore so far, have never jumped anything but cessnas - 182, 206, 207 and 210. Ah, the luxury the one time in the 182 when we put out 2 SL students at 3000' and had all that space for 2 people the rest of the flight up!! btw, someone told me there are only like 10 C270s worldwide - surely this can't be true??? Does anyone know?Skydiving: wasting fossil fuels just for fun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fast 0 #49 October 28, 2005 I love cessnas... Just went to a boogie to throw pumpkins and do formation loads from cessnas. Its cozy and fun to be with your friends for the 25 min formation climb to altitude. I have done up to a 12 way from cessnas (3 of them even) My dropzone also jumps a cessna all winter long, no problems with that I actually know how to spot. We lose our PAC soon,.. good thing we have 2 of them this weekend for 26 ways. I might just get to be on the first formation PAC load ever... will have to ask around about that if it has been done before. Formation loads are cool and cessnas are a lot of fun to do them in. Watching carefully below the body of the other plane for the jumpers to climb out onto the step to launch the 4way base... Waving at your friends... So many things that people miss out by never jumping 182s. (And its not that you can't do that with big planes but hey, its more "special" when its on small ones, i can't explain it, just feels that way.) ~D~D Where troubles melt like lemon drops Away above the chimney tops That's where you'll find me. Swooping is taking one last poke at the bear before escaping it's cave - davelepka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
velvetjo 0 #50 October 28, 2005 Quote5 ways??? How do you get 5 People in a 182? You guys must be TINY 4 people with me in the plane and we are packed like Sardines! Above the Poconos regularly takes 6 jumpers to 10,000' in their widebody 182 with wingtip extensions, STOL kit, and 300HP engine. It's not too tight, unless you're a big guy in "the hole" up next to the pilot. Early 182's (narrow body) do better on climb efficiency for 4 jumpers vs. stock widebody 182's with 4 jumpers. Mods can make a huge difference between individual aircraft though. As for really small aircraft, try jumping from a powered parachute sometime. They're a blast! Lance Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
