arlo 0 #51 October 31, 2005 QuoteI think you should not jump that until you replace the bands with bigger/longer/tandem/whatever rubber bands, or even better tube stows of an appropriate length. i'm gonna have to disagree with this one. i do not think it's better to utilize tube stoes ESPECIALLY on the locking stows. not only are the tube stoes meant to have a higher breaking point, but they also can contribute to line dump by virtue of their shape. because they are "rounded" the lines can "roll" out of them if there isn't enough tension on the lines by the tube stoes. i have no experience with the new bands that parasport italia makes. they are flat instead of rounded so they may be a more viable alternative. i definitely didn't wanna turn this into a rubber bands vs tube stoes thingy, JMO. arlo btw, grue? it's kinda cute that you're getting so angry. it's alllllllll part of learning to pack. patience, grasshopper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites phoenixlpr 0 #52 October 31, 2005 So if you had packing problem with some old canopy you have no hope with a new pilot. I have been thought to pack by a Pilot150. It was slippery like a fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #53 October 31, 2005 My stows are much neater now (although I packed a few with messy stows, and I think one resulted in a rather exiting 90 degree off-heading opening). But I am still damn slow. My 170 is inside a rig that designed for a 150. So bagging is a bitch. As soon as I get most of the canopy inside the bag, I usually put the bag upsidedown and sit on the bag between my knees while I tuck the remainder in. On hot days, the rest is appreciated. I pack in about 30 minutes now, the fastest I've done was 20 minutes and it was a messy job, so I now do 30 minutes. I'm usually the last guy or 2nd last guy to finish packing. I've packed about 75 times now and the bagging is no longer feared. It will get better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mdrejhon 8 #54 October 31, 2005 QuoteSweet. I'll change those tomorrow if I go to the DZ. I think that's why I'm snapping bands so often, is that the pullup cord is too abrasive to be using on rubber like that.I use the big bands for the locking stows and the small bands for the rest. Because of the extra lines near the top makes it too tight at the two locking stows. Many people seem to do it this way, when using lines of similiar thickness to mine. Just make sure the locking stows aren't too loose while the other stows are super-tight, an out-of-sequence line dump is possible... So don't double-stow a big band when a small band has just the right tension. (Double-stowing is generally discouraged, I have read about it contributing to a baglock, but I've done it before until I purchased small bands for myself) At least one or two stows usually broke after every jump after I first started. Now I only need to replace the bands every 10-20 jumps on average, sometimes less often. There was a really good 30 jump stretch that my locking stows survived before I decided to replace them because of visible wear (they still hadn't broken by the time). As always, check with your rigger/instructor/etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 3 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
phoenixlpr 0 #52 October 31, 2005 So if you had packing problem with some old canopy you have no hope with a new pilot. I have been thought to pack by a Pilot150. It was slippery like a fish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #53 October 31, 2005 My stows are much neater now (although I packed a few with messy stows, and I think one resulted in a rather exiting 90 degree off-heading opening). But I am still damn slow. My 170 is inside a rig that designed for a 150. So bagging is a bitch. As soon as I get most of the canopy inside the bag, I usually put the bag upsidedown and sit on the bag between my knees while I tuck the remainder in. On hot days, the rest is appreciated. I pack in about 30 minutes now, the fastest I've done was 20 minutes and it was a messy job, so I now do 30 minutes. I'm usually the last guy or 2nd last guy to finish packing. I've packed about 75 times now and the bagging is no longer feared. It will get better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #54 October 31, 2005 QuoteSweet. I'll change those tomorrow if I go to the DZ. I think that's why I'm snapping bands so often, is that the pullup cord is too abrasive to be using on rubber like that.I use the big bands for the locking stows and the small bands for the rest. Because of the extra lines near the top makes it too tight at the two locking stows. Many people seem to do it this way, when using lines of similiar thickness to mine. Just make sure the locking stows aren't too loose while the other stows are super-tight, an out-of-sequence line dump is possible... So don't double-stow a big band when a small band has just the right tension. (Double-stowing is generally discouraged, I have read about it contributing to a baglock, but I've done it before until I purchased small bands for myself) At least one or two stows usually broke after every jump after I first started. Now I only need to replace the bands every 10-20 jumps on average, sometimes less often. There was a really good 30 jump stretch that my locking stows survived before I decided to replace them because of visible wear (they still hadn't broken by the time). As always, check with your rigger/instructor/etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
