quade 4 #26 August 29, 2004 Quote i've been told that 1/20th of a sec (.05) was the limit of human perception. Depends on what you're talking about. I can -definately- see the flashing of a screen refresh, 1/60th or so, using my peripheral vision. I also see flourecent tubes flashing in the same way. This is actually not uncommon. I do not see the same effect with the fovea, the center on my vision. That said, it's possible to "see" something as brief as a millionth of a second. A flash going off in a room for instance. However, persistance of vision would make it difficult to distinguish between two flashes closer than about 1/20th.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #27 August 29, 2004 Since it's java running on your machine, bandwidth -shouldn't- be a factor.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eeneR 3 #28 August 29, 2004 its kind of hard to test now that i have played with it...any testing would be skewed since I have played with it.... yea, im had a blonde moment about the Java...She is not a "Dumb Blonde" - She is a "Light-Haired Detour Off The Information Superhighway." eeneR TF#72, FB#4130, Incauto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myself 0 #29 August 30, 2004 Age 38 Sex M Avg. time 0.2092 Four identical results (0.203) and one of 0.234 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nathaniel 0 #30 August 30, 2004 Quote *** i've been told that 1/20th of a sec (.05) was the limit of human perception. Depends on what you're talking about. I can -definately- see the flashing of a screen refresh, 1/60th or so, using my peripheral vision. I also see flourecent tubes flashing in the same way. This is actually not uncommon. I do not see the same effect with the fovea, the center on my vision. 24 frames a second is an old standard for motion picture films. It's not the maximum of what a person can detect, but rather the minimum sufficient rate to consistently trick a brain into seeing motion. A good way to experience this yourself is to rig up some contemporary video games that can show you the frame rate real-time. You can really see and appreciate the difference between 20 and 60 frames / sec. And I think you'll find that anything less than 20 seems choppy. ISTR broadcast television uses 30 frames / sec...tho watching my mom's satellite dish it's apparent to me that satellite & cable cheat a bit. nathanielMy advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #31 August 30, 2004 0.2042 On the laptop so the click is a little tricky. I will be 30 soon. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #32 August 30, 2004 With a couple false starts, I managed to get it to register an absolute zero on trial 2. Trial 5 was an honest ,125. The other 3 were .203, .203, .218. Claimed average thus .1498. Second run I averaged .177 with a slow .234 and an honest .078. If I'm up later tonight on this, you'll be getting a visit from my goons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VisionAir 0 #33 August 30, 2004 male 35 avg .2062 last 4 were .203 Huh?!? What cloud?!? Oh that!!! That's just Industrial Haze Alex M. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #34 August 30, 2004 Quote ISTR broadcast television uses 30 frames / sec...tho watching my mom's satellite dish it's apparent to me that satellite & cable cheat a bit. NTSC television is 29.97 "frames" per second with each frame made of two screen refreshes called "fields", so the screen flashes about 60 times per second. Each field in the frame can (usually does) have unique information so it would not be out of line to think of it as 60 frames per second at half verticle resolution. BTW, before the invention of sound, the standard frame rate was 18 frames per second -- more or less, nothing was very well calibrated -- which is why when old silent movies are shown everyone appears to move so quickly. Most were simply ran through the telecine at the now standard film rate of 24 fps.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dkf1979 0 #35 August 30, 2004 Age:25 Sex:M Avg.0.17660000000000003http://bodypilot.bounceme.net Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frodo 0 #36 August 30, 2004 M, 19, just back from work, haven't eaten in a while, worried about my future, uncomfortable shoes... avg time 0.206 enter Party Pooper: > Now this has what to do with skydiving? i.e., i wouldn't expect the distribution of our results *for this particular test* to be noticeably different from that of general population's. it also obviously has a set of "discrete" times that you get nearly always (.187, .203, .219, etc.) while you rarely get the numbers in between. is that a flaw/peculiarity/feature of java? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vallerina 2 #37 August 30, 2004 Age: 24 Sex: Female Avg: 0.2032 Is this proof that no one can call me slow? There's a thin line between Saturday night and Sunday morning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EDYDO 0 #38 August 30, 2004 Age 61 Sex M Average 0.2884 Edited to add: One try, wireless link, notebook computer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbo 0 #39 August 30, 2004 QuoteBTW, before the invention of sound, . . . Quade, who invented sound? When? - Jim"Like" - The modern day comma Good bye, my friends. You are missed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #40 August 30, 2004 Age 40 Sex F Avg 0.2284 So what's this curiosity revealed comparing us with the 'average joe'? ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #41 August 30, 2004 Quote Quade, who invented sound? When? Synchronized sound film, but I gather you already surmised as much. Edison usually gets the credit, but like a lot of his inventions, there is quite a bit of discussion on that point. For example http://www.filmsound.org/ulano/talkies.htmquade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #42 August 30, 2004 Male Age 59 (aka Old Fart) Average 0.2080... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #43 August 30, 2004 Quote So what's this curiosity revealed comparing us with the 'average joe'? Probably nothing, but it does have some implications if you consider how fast we might need to react to things, variations in reaction times with age and sex as pointed out in http://biae.clemson.edu/bpc/bp/Lab/110/reaction.htm. Certain aspects of the sport might be considered a "young man's game" with the turning point somewhere around mid to late 40s. Rut row!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cvfd1399 0 #44 August 30, 2004 Age:23 Male 0.19980000000000002 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ltdiver 3 #45 August 30, 2004 QuoteProbably nothing, but it does have some implications if you consider how fast we might need to react to things, variations in reaction times with age and sex as pointed out in http://biae.clemson.edu/...Lab/110/reaction.htm. Certain aspects of the sport might be considered a "young man's game" with the turning point somewhere around mid to late 40s. quade: Age 46 Sex M Avg 0.3014 kallend: Male Age 59 (aka Old Fart) Average 0.2080 Rut row! indeed!!!! ltdiver Don't tell me the sky's the limit when there are footprints on the moon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
reprobate 0 #46 August 30, 2004 Age - 67 Avg (4 tests) 0.2664Carl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Speer 0 #47 August 30, 2004 M 51 .208 Russ Generally, it is your choice; will your life serve as an example... or a warning? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #48 August 30, 2004 M 21 avg .22 and in fact all five tests i got exactly .22 seconds every time. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firstime 0 #49 August 30, 2004 age:47 Male 0.2032 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wildblue 7 #50 August 30, 2004 male, 27, avg 0.202 and kinda tired at the momentit's like incest - you're substituting convenience for quality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
