Darryn 0 #1 September 29, 2005 Just wondering what eveyones lowest Hop&Pop was. This does not include Base Jumping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimemerson 7 #2 September 29, 2005 1,500'. Cessna 182. Full flaps. Bungee pilot chute. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #3 September 29, 2005 1800' and never again. That's scary shtuff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #4 September 29, 2005 1000', more than once. Your poll needs more alts on the lower end. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuteless 1 #5 September 29, 2005 nine or ten at 1000 ft....for a television commercial Bill Cole D-41 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darryn 0 #6 September 29, 2005 I only whent down that low on purpose. I wanted people to post details on anything lower. So if anyone out there is below 1700', lets here about it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawnDart21 0 #7 September 29, 2005 1600' out of a 182, no cut, 3 second delay. -- My other ride is a RESERVE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #8 September 29, 2005 Quote1,500'. Cessna 182. Full flaps. Bungee pilot chute. That pilot did you no favors. You want lots of airspeed when you're getting out low. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #9 September 29, 2005 Okay, it takes 800 feet for my canopy to fully inflate sometimes, how the hell can you jump from 1000 ft safely?Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #10 September 29, 2005 because it takes 800ft from terminal... if you're going 90mph horizontally (ie just go out of a plane) when you deploy you're going to be open in much much less than 800ft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawnDart21 0 #11 September 29, 2005 Your estimate of 800 ft openings is coming from a terminal velocity opening. Most of these low hop-n-pops are sub terminal openings. I jump a Cobalt, which is known for long openings, I'd say consisitently 600-1000ft. (I can't gauge any better than that given my Alti isnt that accurate). On a subterminal hop-n-pop, gievn I would pack it for a quick opening, I can expect a 300ft opening. In my example above. 1600 exit approx 3 second delay approx 1300ft deployment alti sitting in at approx 900ft. -- My other ride is a RESERVE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #12 September 29, 2005 Okay I see, I was thinking you went out on reserve or something. For me at least at my stage, Ill stick to only leaving the plane that low in a emergancy. Do you guys do it for the rush? Why not go to at least standard hop and pop alti?Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kimblair13 0 #13 September 29, 2005 QuoteWhy not go to at least standard hop and pop alti? Clouds were in the way, duh. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #14 September 29, 2005 QuoteWhy not go to at least standard hop and pop alti? We were touching the cloud base. We took a vote and went. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #15 September 29, 2005 Wouldnt it be safer to jump at alti through clouds? Then to hop and pop at a grand? Either way arent both illigal, so why not get the longer freefall. Sorry Im asking so much, this is a new thing for me to hear so Im curiousSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #16 September 29, 2005 QuoteQuoteWhy not go to at least standard hop and pop alti? Clouds were in the way, duh. What that poster said -- we were bugging the pilot to take us on a H&P as we got tired of waiting for the weather to clear -- as we reached 1600 we realized he was setting up for jump run. As we got over the center of the dz, he growled "you wanted to do a hop and pop -- THIS is a hop and pop. Now get outta my plane." Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #17 September 29, 2005 okay so it was more the pilots choice on what you got to do. I understand more clearly now... You all are much braver then me, Im still scared in the plane till 3 or 4 grand.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jceman 1 #18 September 29, 2005 Quoteokay so it was more the pilots choice on what you got to do. I understand more clearly now... You all are much braver then me, Im still scared in the plane till 3 or 4 grand. Well in this case, not only the pilot, but the plane owner and DZO. Faster horses, younger women, older whiskey, more money. Why do they call it "Tourist Season" if we can't shoot them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ninjaswooper 0 #19 September 29, 2005 Went from 1900 a couple of times (low clouds, jonesin' to jump), want to go from as low as 1500', just waiting for an opportunity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LawnDart21 0 #20 September 29, 2005 I can't speak for the others. For me, lets just say it was clouded in at 1601ft...... Side bar, my one gripe with AFF (which I went through) versus Static Line training is that in AFF, we started at 13,500ft and then once off AFF, did a "low solo" at 3,500ft. I think it unnecessarily engrains 3500ft to be a "low" altitude to get out of a plane in AFF students. Static liners by comparison I have seen, are much more comfortable getting out on lower passess, as thier training started getting out at like 2500ft in the first place and they prgressed "up" not down in exit altitude. The reason I got out that low, and will continue to do it (if and when the opportunity presents itself again), is that getting out of a plane under 2000ft doesnt have to be a "panic situation", even if the plane is having an emergency and you must exit. I think its important to know where ones "main or reserve?" limit is for an airplane emergency, and also to have gone out real low a few times in a non emergency situation, so that if/when it happens for real, it won't be the first time you do it. Think about it, a jumper who has never exited below 2000ft is in a Cessna that the pilot instructs everyone to "EXIT EXIT EXIT" at 1800ft. If I go to leave from the door and freeze, I can hose the others behind me and th pilot. If I've been out on the strut at 1600ft before, I am less apt to panic/pause in a real crisis. Just my opinion, hope that helps. -- My other ride is a RESERVE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,991 #21 September 29, 2005 >Okay, it takes 800 feet for my canopy to fully inflate sometimes . . . Personally, I think a parachute that takes 800 feet to inflate is not a very good lifesaving device for more than one reason. Needless to say, it is a mistake to take such a parachute out of a plane for a low hop and pop even though you would probably be fine (you have ~10 sec from 1000 feet.) I once did a hop and pop from a reasonable altitude (2500) with a Mojo, a base PC and a mesh slider. I was open in under a second, and I ended up about 35-40 feet under the plane by the time the slider came down. 1000 feet exit would not be a problem with such a system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #22 September 29, 2005 QuoteOkay, it takes 800 feet for my canopy to fully inflate sometimes, how the hell can you jump from 1000 ft safely? A big open-nosed F111 seven cell with a mesh slider out of a King Air at normal jumprun speed doesn't really loose any altitude. I don't think it's too different than a zero airspeed static line with no slider which is quite comfortable at 200-250 feet. Combine that with a reserve/BASE packjob for reliability. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #23 September 29, 2005 I really see your point. To be honest, if I would have been only able to go through static line, I would have stopped at my first tandem. Granted now, I love "standard" hop and pops. I do not know how I in perticular would respond to a "JUMP OUT NOW" (what our pilot would say) if it was done at 1500 ft, but I think I would be the first out, since I do have plane issues which over ride the low jump issue. Up until 2000 I have my left hand ready for action (not on the handle of course) up until 3 grand I calm down and am out of emergancy jump out mode for the most part.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnyshrek 0 #24 September 29, 2005 2 way with Justin out of a 185 at 1200 may of been 1100http://www.skydivethefarm.com do you realize that when you critisize people you dont know over the internet, you become part of a growing society of twats? ARE YOU ONE OF THEM? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #25 September 29, 2005 How many points did ya turn? Your flippen crazy btwSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites