Bolrog 0 #1 September 26, 2005 Ive been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JJ269J 0 #2 September 26, 2005 Good luck, most places now a days won't touch under age people. Too much liability. Cause the waivers just don't stand up in court. But maybe somebody will, so good luck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #3 September 26, 2005 almost every dz i know of in oklahoma does....but i'm not sure which if any do in florida....unless someone answers you on here you could go to uspa.org and get numbers and call. but the guy above me is right....most dz's wont do it because of liability....i live in oklahoma...but jump in texas.....the dz's in texas dont let minors jump...Good luck! I hope you can find one! Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnMitchell 16 #4 September 26, 2005 At the very least, her parent or guardian will have to sign for her. If you get married, then you can sign for her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #5 September 26, 2005 QuoteAt the very least, her parent or guardian will have to sign for her. If you get married, then you can sign for her. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is: a lot of courts do not honor waivers signed on behalf of minors. It does not matter whether the waiver was signed by a parent, guardian or spouse, many courts do not allow anyone else to sign away a minor's right to sue after the fact. The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mx757 4 #6 September 26, 2005 The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflychris 0 #7 September 26, 2005 A buddy of mine works at skydive greensburg in,they will take 16 year olds from what he tells me, but i dont know if this is true or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jedeisurf 0 #8 September 26, 2005 I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #9 September 26, 2005 Quote I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Same issue still arises. In most U.S. states, a waiver signed by anyone under 18 is not valid, nor can a parent or guardian waive a juvenile's right to sue. This is the case regardless of whether it's a tandem, static line, AFF, whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azureriders 0 #10 September 26, 2005 I took a client to Gold Coast for a tandem. He had a 14 yr old daughter that wanted to jump, I knew that wasn't going to fly but I asked anyway as I promised them I would. The answer I got was 'she has to be atleast 16 with a parent or gaurdean present' I have never saw a minor jump there, but that is what I was told. In case you don't know, Gold Coast is in Moss Point MS which is on I-10 Just as you come into MS from East, so that should not be too bad a drive from FL, I know a few people from FL that jump there alot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefalle 0 #11 September 27, 2005 QuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #12 September 27, 2005 Quote what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... In this case that's just incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #13 September 28, 2005 when I did my tandem at 9 with a jumpshack racer tandem rig my dad got his vector rating pulled and we didn't even use a vector...Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billbooth 10 #14 September 28, 2005 Quote The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... If that underage person gets hurt, Bill Booth, Relative Workshop, PD, and Crypes will probably be sued out of business...not to mention USPA and the drop zone. Is it reallly worth it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydived19006 4 #15 September 28, 2005 I'm not a RWS TI, but isn't there a contract between the TI and RWS? And isn't there something in there about a $10,000 per incident penalty for violating the age conditions in the contract? Also, curious if this is correct if it's ever been invoked?Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #16 September 30, 2005 I won't name any dz's because this seems to be taboo and talk of pulling ratings and what not...but i took my brother to a particualr dz to do a tandem (he is 16) and they did it no problem. He had to get parents notory signatures and what not....but other than that they were fine with it. And of course AFF and Static line also....because he continued his training with static line. Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 September 30, 2005 We routinely do tandems for 16 year-olds at Raeford now that the USPA says we can. By the way, our school owner is also the conference director. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #18 September 30, 2005 So I am assuming that if you do tandems, then AFF (or static line) is avaliable for someone under 18 (17) my brother started jumping out here where I am stationed in Oklahoma....but moved back to Charlotte. I had called a couple of places and I got a no. Do you guys do it there at Raeford? Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #19 October 1, 2005 We have always taught 16 year-olds to skydive at Raeford. We have been doing so, safely, for over 35 years. We do primarilly AFF, but still offer SL to those who choose that methodology. It costs the same in the end. Under 18 we just require notarized parental consent. It helps that there is a notary about 1/4 mile up the road. Chuck Blue AFF/SL/TM-I, PRO, BMCI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #20 October 1, 2005 Thats great....I would prefer him to do AFF anyway...I'm here in the desert for now...but it would be nice to get him his A license before i get back...so you might be seeing a new face at the dz before long! Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolrog 0 #21 October 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. ok 2 things, What exactly was i mistaken about? I didn't offer an answer, strickly questions... And I take it Raeford is the clostest dropzone then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
jloirsdaan 0 #3 September 26, 2005 almost every dz i know of in oklahoma does....but i'm not sure which if any do in florida....unless someone answers you on here you could go to uspa.org and get numbers and call. but the guy above me is right....most dz's wont do it because of liability....i live in oklahoma...but jump in texas.....the dz's in texas dont let minors jump...Good luck! I hope you can find one! Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #4 September 26, 2005 At the very least, her parent or guardian will have to sign for her. If you get married, then you can sign for her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riggerrob 643 #5 September 26, 2005 QuoteAt the very least, her parent or guardian will have to sign for her. If you get married, then you can sign for her. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is: a lot of courts do not honor waivers signed on behalf of minors. It does not matter whether the waiver was signed by a parent, guardian or spouse, many courts do not allow anyone else to sign away a minor's right to sue after the fact. The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mx757 4 #6 September 26, 2005 The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflychris 0 #7 September 26, 2005 A buddy of mine works at skydive greensburg in,they will take 16 year olds from what he tells me, but i dont know if this is true or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jedeisurf 0 #8 September 26, 2005 I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #9 September 26, 2005 Quote I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Same issue still arises. In most U.S. states, a waiver signed by anyone under 18 is not valid, nor can a parent or guardian waive a juvenile's right to sue. This is the case regardless of whether it's a tandem, static line, AFF, whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites azureriders 0 #10 September 26, 2005 I took a client to Gold Coast for a tandem. He had a 14 yr old daughter that wanted to jump, I knew that wasn't going to fly but I asked anyway as I promised them I would. The answer I got was 'she has to be atleast 16 with a parent or gaurdean present' I have never saw a minor jump there, but that is what I was told. In case you don't know, Gold Coast is in Moss Point MS which is on I-10 Just as you come into MS from East, so that should not be too bad a drive from FL, I know a few people from FL that jump there alot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freefalle 0 #11 September 27, 2005 QuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites dorbie 0 #12 September 27, 2005 Quote what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... In this case that's just incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #13 September 28, 2005 when I did my tandem at 9 with a jumpshack racer tandem rig my dad got his vector rating pulled and we didn't even use a vector...Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billbooth 10 #14 September 28, 2005 Quote The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... If that underage person gets hurt, Bill Booth, Relative Workshop, PD, and Crypes will probably be sued out of business...not to mention USPA and the drop zone. Is it reallly worth it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydived19006 4 #15 September 28, 2005 I'm not a RWS TI, but isn't there a contract between the TI and RWS? And isn't there something in there about a $10,000 per incident penalty for violating the age conditions in the contract? Also, curious if this is correct if it's ever been invoked?Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #16 September 30, 2005 I won't name any dz's because this seems to be taboo and talk of pulling ratings and what not...but i took my brother to a particualr dz to do a tandem (he is 16) and they did it no problem. He had to get parents notory signatures and what not....but other than that they were fine with it. And of course AFF and Static line also....because he continued his training with static line. Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 September 30, 2005 We routinely do tandems for 16 year-olds at Raeford now that the USPA says we can. By the way, our school owner is also the conference director. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #18 September 30, 2005 So I am assuming that if you do tandems, then AFF (or static line) is avaliable for someone under 18 (17) my brother started jumping out here where I am stationed in Oklahoma....but moved back to Charlotte. I had called a couple of places and I got a no. Do you guys do it there at Raeford? Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites SkymonkeyONE 4 #19 October 1, 2005 We have always taught 16 year-olds to skydive at Raeford. We have been doing so, safely, for over 35 years. We do primarilly AFF, but still offer SL to those who choose that methodology. It costs the same in the end. Under 18 we just require notarized parental consent. It helps that there is a notary about 1/4 mile up the road. Chuck Blue AFF/SL/TM-I, PRO, BMCI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jloirsdaan 0 #20 October 1, 2005 Thats great....I would prefer him to do AFF anyway...I'm here in the desert for now...but it would be nice to get him his A license before i get back...so you might be seeing a new face at the dz before long! Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Bolrog 0 #21 October 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. ok 2 things, What exactly was i mistaken about? I didn't offer an answer, strickly questions... And I take it Raeford is the clostest dropzone then? 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riggerrob 643 #5 September 26, 2005 QuoteAt the very least, her parent or guardian will have to sign for her. If you get married, then you can sign for her. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is: a lot of courts do not honor waivers signed on behalf of minors. It does not matter whether the waiver was signed by a parent, guardian or spouse, many courts do not allow anyone else to sign away a minor's right to sue after the fact. The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mx757 4 #6 September 26, 2005 The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflychris 0 #7 September 26, 2005 A buddy of mine works at skydive greensburg in,they will take 16 year olds from what he tells me, but i dont know if this is true or not. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jedeisurf 0 #8 September 26, 2005 I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 September 26, 2005 Quote I think you are talking about static line or aff a lot of DZs do that but not tandems. David Same issue still arises. In most U.S. states, a waiver signed by anyone under 18 is not valid, nor can a parent or guardian waive a juvenile's right to sue. This is the case regardless of whether it's a tandem, static line, AFF, whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #10 September 26, 2005 I took a client to Gold Coast for a tandem. He had a 14 yr old daughter that wanted to jump, I knew that wasn't going to fly but I asked anyway as I promised them I would. The answer I got was 'she has to be atleast 16 with a parent or gaurdean present' I have never saw a minor jump there, but that is what I was told. In case you don't know, Gold Coast is in Moss Point MS which is on I-10 Just as you come into MS from East, so that should not be too bad a drive from FL, I know a few people from FL that jump there alot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freefalle 0 #11 September 27, 2005 QuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dorbie 0 #12 September 27, 2005 Quote what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... In this case that's just incorrect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #13 September 28, 2005 when I did my tandem at 9 with a jumpshack racer tandem rig my dad got his vector rating pulled and we didn't even use a vector...Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billbooth 10 #14 September 28, 2005 Quote The second issue is that Bill Booth (owner of the Uninsured Relative Workshop) will tear up the rating of any Vector or Sigma-rated instructor that he hears did a jump with a minor. Well.. I know of a few that have.. but I'm not talking. what Bill Booth doesn't know won't hurt him... If that underage person gets hurt, Bill Booth, Relative Workshop, PD, and Crypes will probably be sued out of business...not to mention USPA and the drop zone. Is it reallly worth it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydived19006 4 #15 September 28, 2005 I'm not a RWS TI, but isn't there a contract between the TI and RWS? And isn't there something in there about a $10,000 per incident penalty for violating the age conditions in the contract? Also, curious if this is correct if it's ever been invoked?Experience is what you get when you thought you were going to get something else. AC DZ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jloirsdaan 0 #16 September 30, 2005 I won't name any dz's because this seems to be taboo and talk of pulling ratings and what not...but i took my brother to a particualr dz to do a tandem (he is 16) and they did it no problem. He had to get parents notory signatures and what not....but other than that they were fine with it. And of course AFF and Static line also....because he continued his training with static line. Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #17 September 30, 2005 We routinely do tandems for 16 year-olds at Raeford now that the USPA says we can. By the way, our school owner is also the conference director. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jloirsdaan 0 #18 September 30, 2005 So I am assuming that if you do tandems, then AFF (or static line) is avaliable for someone under 18 (17) my brother started jumping out here where I am stationed in Oklahoma....but moved back to Charlotte. I had called a couple of places and I got a no. Do you guys do it there at Raeford? Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #19 October 1, 2005 We have always taught 16 year-olds to skydive at Raeford. We have been doing so, safely, for over 35 years. We do primarilly AFF, but still offer SL to those who choose that methodology. It costs the same in the end. Under 18 we just require notarized parental consent. It helps that there is a notary about 1/4 mile up the road. Chuck Blue AFF/SL/TM-I, PRO, BMCI Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jloirsdaan 0 #20 October 1, 2005 Thats great....I would prefer him to do AFF anyway...I'm here in the desert for now...but it would be nice to get him his A license before i get back...so you might be seeing a new face at the dz before long! Jordan Go Fast, Dock Soft. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bolrog 0 #21 October 3, 2005 QuoteQuoteIve been skydiving for the past 4 or 5 months and my GF is wanting to do it herself as well. she is 16 and I need to know whats the closest dropzone to Titusville, FL that allows people under 18 to do a tandum. Please help. I am pretty sure you are mistaken. Skydive space center will not allow anyone under the age of 18 to go on a tandem. ok 2 things, What exactly was i mistaken about? I didn't offer an answer, strickly questions... And I take it Raeford is the clostest dropzone then? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
