HydroGuy 0 #26 September 15, 2005 SHARK AIR... I like the way it looks as it flies away from you after exitGet in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #27 September 15, 2005 QuoteBut it's still not a tailgater.... Tailgates are fun too, but they aren't my favorite. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobbes4star 0 #28 September 15, 2005 Otter all the way. also the pitts bi planeif fun were easy it wouldn't be worth having, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #29 September 15, 2005 Here ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jumpjunkie2004 0 #30 September 15, 2005 Nice plane Kallend - is it yours Are you a pilot?Jump, Land, Pack, Repeat... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
outlawphx 1 #31 September 15, 2005 While looking around at planes, I was amazed to see that only 844 Twin Otters were ever made. Dropzones must own 50 of those... http://www.exn.ca/FlightDeck/Aircraft/Milestones/dhtwinotter.cfm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #32 September 15, 2005 QuoteQuoteBut it's still not a tailgater.... Tailgates are fun too, but they aren't my favorite. And why? Me thinks you might just be some propaganda plant for Ray. It may have just been that a) I was disappointed to be bumped and b) hangover effects from the night before started to kick in, but.....at the American Boogie, my first jump of the day was from the CASA. It seemed to climb nice and fast. Next jump, one of the engines didn't want to start and we got bumped to the Otter (from the CASA). I felt that I had to try and not bump the person on my left (from falling into them), I suddenly felt nauseous and that plane seemed to climb only barely faster than a 182. That Otter seemed slow as hell compared to the CASA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #33 September 15, 2005 QuoteNice plane Kallend - is it yours Are you a pilot? It is indeed.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bob.dino 1 #34 September 15, 2005 Depends on the Otter. To the best of my knowledge: -100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. As to the original question: I love the Otter for 4-way (floor seating rather than side benches, please) and the Skyvan for pretty much everything else. Being last diver out of the lead Skyvan on a bigway is amazing . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azureriders 0 #35 September 15, 2005 Outer all the way. oh wait, I have never jumped out of anything else. oh well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,075 #36 September 15, 2005 The stretch C-130 is nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elisha 1 #37 September 15, 2005 QuoteDepends on the Otter. To the best of my knowledge: -100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. As to the original question: I love the Otter for 4-way (floor seating rather than side benches, please) and the Skyvan for pretty much everything else. Being last diver out of the lead Skyvan on a bigway is amazing . Thanks. Skybytch, So which one was at AB 2005? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #38 September 16, 2005 I'm just a big fan of the Twin Otter, love the door, the exits, just like the plane in general... I've also jumped from a King Air, Grand Caravan, CASA, PAC 750, and Skyvan. FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #39 September 16, 2005 "What is your Favorite Plane" ........Whichever one I happen to BE in,, when it turns onto a jumprun at 14 Grand AGL !!"what planes do they use at your DZ "? we are lucky to have a twin Otter and a C 182, both leased... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites cocheese 0 #40 September 16, 2005 Joy ride = L-39. I'm ruined.Thrill ride = PittsJumpin safe n fast = OtterBoogie plane = CasaFav jump aircraft = BalloonR/C = micro flying wingTravel plane = any plane will do. Beats driving a car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites thegreekone 0 #41 September 16, 2005 QuoteIn the early 80's, when USPA Nationals and the corresponding boogie were held in Muskogee Oklahoma, I got to jump the normally Florida based DC-3, 'Mr. Douglas'... not soon after boarding, they fired up the massive sound system, and me and 40 of my 'new' closest friends got to rock to Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Free Bird'. It was memorable. I didn't want to age myself BUT, I busted my cherry on Douglas listening to "UP All Night" by the Talking Heads. It was so much rockin fun I seriously considered not going home, like my friend Theresa, who didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver1717 0 #42 September 16, 2005 C-130 The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and delicious. And why shouldn't it be? It is the same the angels breathe. — Mark Twain, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #43 September 16, 2005 Porter Otter SKyvan and for fun a B-17Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #44 September 16, 2005 I'll take a super otter anyday. Nowhere near as loud as those damn skyvans or casa's. Just a great plane to bail from. There fairly big and tough and built to take an ass beating and ask for more.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vt1977 0 #45 September 16, 2005 The C-130 is cool just for the sheer size and the blast of air you get on exit. The Tiger Moth is cool for almost completely the opposite reasons (and climbing out onto the wing is pretty damn cool too!) Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #46 September 16, 2005 Quote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #47 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Or a scalded dog! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #48 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Don't forget reliability. Otters are very tough too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites inzite 0 #49 September 16, 2005 Not quite a plane, but: 1) Mi-8 helicopter. Seats more than 20 (never have counted heads), 8-10 minutes to altitude, and it's about 12 USD a jump here when you buy in bulk. Nice to live in the former Soviet Union. After that, I'd call: 2) King Air 3) An-28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites woodpecker 0 #50 September 16, 2005 C-130 SOLL - II 141 Only way to flySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
cocheese 0 #40 September 16, 2005 Joy ride = L-39. I'm ruined.Thrill ride = PittsJumpin safe n fast = OtterBoogie plane = CasaFav jump aircraft = BalloonR/C = micro flying wingTravel plane = any plane will do. Beats driving a car. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegreekone 0 #41 September 16, 2005 QuoteIn the early 80's, when USPA Nationals and the corresponding boogie were held in Muskogee Oklahoma, I got to jump the normally Florida based DC-3, 'Mr. Douglas'... not soon after boarding, they fired up the massive sound system, and me and 40 of my 'new' closest friends got to rock to Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Free Bird'. It was memorable. I didn't want to age myself BUT, I busted my cherry on Douglas listening to "UP All Night" by the Talking Heads. It was so much rockin fun I seriously considered not going home, like my friend Theresa, who didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydiver1717 0 #42 September 16, 2005 C-130 The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and delicious. And why shouldn't it be? It is the same the angels breathe. — Mark Twain, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packing_jarrett 0 #43 September 16, 2005 Porter Otter SKyvan and for fun a B-17Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #44 September 16, 2005 I'll take a super otter anyday. Nowhere near as loud as those damn skyvans or casa's. Just a great plane to bail from. There fairly big and tough and built to take an ass beating and ask for more.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites vt1977 0 #45 September 16, 2005 The C-130 is cool just for the sheer size and the blast of air you get on exit. The Tiger Moth is cool for almost completely the opposite reasons (and climbing out onto the wing is pretty damn cool too!) Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites gemini 0 #46 September 16, 2005 Quote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites BillyVance 34 #47 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Or a scalded dog! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #48 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Don't forget reliability. Otters are very tough too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites inzite 0 #49 September 16, 2005 Not quite a plane, but: 1) Mi-8 helicopter. Seats more than 20 (never have counted heads), 8-10 minutes to altitude, and it's about 12 USD a jump here when you buy in bulk. Nice to live in the former Soviet Union. After that, I'd call: 2) King Air 3) An-28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites woodpecker 0 #50 September 16, 2005 C-130 SOLL - II 141 Only way to flySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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skydiver1717 0 #42 September 16, 2005 C-130 The air up there in the clouds is very pure and fine, bracing and delicious. And why shouldn't it be? It is the same the angels breathe. — Mark Twain, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packing_jarrett 0 #43 September 16, 2005 Porter Otter SKyvan and for fun a B-17Na' Cho' Cheese Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #44 September 16, 2005 I'll take a super otter anyday. Nowhere near as loud as those damn skyvans or casa's. Just a great plane to bail from. There fairly big and tough and built to take an ass beating and ask for more.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vt1977 0 #45 September 16, 2005 The C-130 is cool just for the sheer size and the blast of air you get on exit. The Tiger Moth is cool for almost completely the opposite reasons (and climbing out onto the wing is pretty damn cool too!) Vicki Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gemini 0 #46 September 16, 2005 Quote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Blue skies, Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #47 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Or a scalded dog! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,106 #48 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Don't forget reliability. Otters are very tough too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites inzite 0 #49 September 16, 2005 Not quite a plane, but: 1) Mi-8 helicopter. Seats more than 20 (never have counted heads), 8-10 minutes to altitude, and it's about 12 USD a jump here when you buy in bulk. Nice to live in the former Soviet Union. After that, I'd call: 2) King Air 3) An-28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites woodpecker 0 #50 September 16, 2005 C-130 SOLL - II 141 Only way to flySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 2 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
kallend 2,106 #48 September 16, 2005 QuoteQuote-100 series: small engines, light airframe. -200 series: small engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like a dog on a hot day. -300 series (Super Otter): big engines, heavy airframe. Climbs like an owl with a cattle-prod up its arse. Data is valid only for Otters still flying original wings and engines which are very few. -300 wings replaced most of the -100 and -200 wings and allowed the introduction of the -27 and the -34 engines to the Otter fleet. An Otter with -27 engines should get to altitude in 12-15 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. An Otter with -34 engines should get to altitude in 12 minutes allowing 3 loads per hour for the dz. The difference between the -27 and -34 is pure horsepower. The -34 is derated to 650 hp from its full capacity of 1150 hp. What this means is this puppy can climb at full speed and power from take-off to drop altititude (since it is really only running at 50%+- power). For cost, maintenance, ease of operation and STOL capability the Otter is the best jump plane by far. Don't forget reliability. Otters are very tough too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inzite 0 #49 September 16, 2005 Not quite a plane, but: 1) Mi-8 helicopter. Seats more than 20 (never have counted heads), 8-10 minutes to altitude, and it's about 12 USD a jump here when you buy in bulk. Nice to live in the former Soviet Union. After that, I'd call: 2) King Air 3) An-28 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodpecker 0 #50 September 16, 2005 C-130 SOLL - II 141 Only way to flySONIC WOODY #146 There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence -- which side of the line are you on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites