jumper03 0 #1 August 30, 2005 I was looking through the Para-gear catalog and saw them. Then realized that the last time I saw a streamer dropped before first load was out of -182 in 1997. Is it a lost art now? JumpScars remind us that the past is real Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peej 0 #2 August 30, 2005 I dunno about it being a lost art but i saw one dropped from our Porter this year at Nationals before the swoop comp started on the beach. Advertisio Rodriguez / Sky Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #3 August 30, 2005 Before first student lift of the day - legal requirement here. And before a demo drop. Quite a common skill over here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #4 August 30, 2005 I was told that's what the hop-n-poppers were for..... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #5 August 30, 2005 if the winds are kinda funky (ie. uppers in the opposite direction of ground winds), we drop one on the first load, otherwise the first load is the 'wind drift load'. we almost always do before the first student load of the day. i don't think i've ever seen one dropped out of an otter (in my limited experience), i guess that went the way of spotting."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweep 0 #6 August 30, 2005 We drop them before the first lift of every day, and before resuming student parachuting if we've been stood down for wind. We also often drop them if for whatever reason we haven't dropped students till later on in the day to check things haven't changed since the morning. And we often drop them before dispatching students on rounds just to double check. Making WDIs is one of the first ground-skills our students are taught, and they love it ---- Yay! I'm now a 200 jump wonder.... Still a know-it-all tho.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buried 0 #7 August 30, 2005 people still [sometimes] use them for base.. Where is my fizzy-lifting drink? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #8 August 30, 2005 WDI's are still used on some demo jumps that I'm on, especially the tight ones. I think with the advent of near instantaneous wind and weather reports via phone or radio for a certain area, people don't depend on WDI's much anymore."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NSEMN8R 0 #9 August 30, 2005 The last place I jumped at we used them on the first load of the day. I've never seen it done anywhere else though. I figured they just did it there because they had round reserves and some big lakes close by. We never bought them though. We made our own with 4 pages of trade-a-plane rolled up and taped to the end of a 10ft by 1ft piece of crepe paper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFFTM 1 #10 August 30, 2005 Naw, We use students.... We generally drop WDI's on the first load everyday depending how squirrly the winds are. We hardly ever put students on the first lift so by the time they jump, winds, landing patterns and spots are pretty well defined by the up-jumpers. BSBD Home of the Alabama Gang Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spizzzarko 0 #11 August 30, 2005 The USAF Academy uses them on the first load of the day, and after a weather hold. Interperating WDI info properly can lead to a good amount of knowledge of what the winds are doing. It's a lost art, but it is very helpfull, that's for sure. I have scene that hot air baloon dudes release a small party balloon into the air to see what the winds are doing. That could be helpfull too, but it won't tell you if there is lift or sink out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KrisFlyZ 0 #12 August 30, 2005 QuoteI was looking through the Para-gear catalog and saw them. Then realized that the last time I saw a streamer dropped before first load was out of -182 in 1997. Is it a lost art now? Jump Nope, saw that at Weston(UK) two weekends ago. Kris. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
banjobill 0 #13 August 30, 2005 The Golden Knights dropped two before a demo they did in Little Rock a couple of years back.....with a capital P and that rhymes with T and that spells TROUBLE!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkymonkeyONE 4 #14 August 30, 2005 I have thrown streamers on every single demo jump I have ever done. I have not, however, thrown streamers for "regular" jumping in several years. Not since we stopped regularly doing SL progression at Raeford. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
benpat 0 #15 August 31, 2005 Ahh.. the lost art of spotting....CSPA rules sez,a wind drift is to be thrown before 1st. load of the day,If there hasn't been a load for over 90 minutes or there's a significant change in wind direction... all good stuff. At our DZ the DZO had a standing bet...at the first WD throw,the thrower could put up 10 dollars to try and win 100 dollars, by throwing the WDI at the guessed spot and attempt to land the WDI in the bowl, Vic Boghese never had to pay out in 32 years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 August 31, 2005 Only if I was jumping a round. I let someone else throw the damn thing at LP for the Water Jump.. and shit.. he threw it 1/4 mile short and it looked like it was headed for the trees.. SOOOOOOO on jump run I checked the white caps..( old trick at Homestead) and adjusted the jump run accordingly.. geee I managed to land right in the middle of the lake like I wanted to and not the dayum trees Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites tdog 0 #17 August 31, 2005 QuoteWe drop them before the first lift of every day, and before resuming student parachuting if we've been stood down for wind. For all of those who said "before student operations".... What type of student operations, SL or AFF.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bch7773 0 #18 August 31, 2005 we toss em before our first student load of the day. they really do help you nail down the spot. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ripcord4 0 #19 August 31, 2005 We throw two before our round jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pchapman 279 #20 August 31, 2005 QuoteAhh.. the lost art of spotting....CSPA rules sez,a wind drift is to be thrown before 1st. load of the day, Technically it does say "wind drift indicator or rate one turn". (Canadian PIM 1, Sec. 3.3. No change for many years.) So drop zones have an alternative to a WDI. But when I go to a Canadian DZ flying a Twin Otter or King Air, I don't seem to recall seeing either... :) At the DZ I jump most at, we still use WDI's. A bit of a bother but they are very good at showing the winds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites LittleDJ 0 #21 September 1, 2005 nope my dz still does. Definatly not lost in all dz's*********************************** LittleDJ!!- There is no such thing as a perfectly good aircraft!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HydroGuy 0 #22 September 1, 2005 Quotenope my dz still does. Definatly not lost in all dz's your dz litters j/kGet in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Governor 0 #23 September 2, 2005 Not a lost art, just no longer needed with the advent of multiple R'navs in da panel! Your jump ship captain knows how to use deez gizmos and put you right on target correcting for winds aloft and dem on the surface! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #24 September 2, 2005 QuoteNot a lost art, just no longer needed with the advent of multiple R'navs in da panel! Your jump ship captain knows how to use deez gizmos and put you right on target correcting for winds aloft and dem on the surface! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHT Thats why NO one ver lands out anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RevJim 0 #25 September 2, 2005 Our DZ does throw a WDI before first load daily. People need to remember that the WDI doesn't give you the spot, it can only tell you about where you want to be open... We throw it at around 3 grand. If the uppers are really moving, you still need to adjust for freefall drift, and this really is a lost art... It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
tdog 0 #17 August 31, 2005 QuoteWe drop them before the first lift of every day, and before resuming student parachuting if we've been stood down for wind. For all of those who said "before student operations".... What type of student operations, SL or AFF.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #18 August 31, 2005 we toss em before our first student load of the day. they really do help you nail down the spot. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ripcord4 0 #19 August 31, 2005 We throw two before our round jumps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pchapman 279 #20 August 31, 2005 QuoteAhh.. the lost art of spotting....CSPA rules sez,a wind drift is to be thrown before 1st. load of the day, Technically it does say "wind drift indicator or rate one turn". (Canadian PIM 1, Sec. 3.3. No change for many years.) So drop zones have an alternative to a WDI. But when I go to a Canadian DZ flying a Twin Otter or King Air, I don't seem to recall seeing either... :) At the DZ I jump most at, we still use WDI's. A bit of a bother but they are very good at showing the winds! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LittleDJ 0 #21 September 1, 2005 nope my dz still does. Definatly not lost in all dz's*********************************** LittleDJ!!- There is no such thing as a perfectly good aircraft!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #22 September 1, 2005 Quotenope my dz still does. Definatly not lost in all dz's your dz litters j/kGet in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Governor 0 #23 September 2, 2005 Not a lost art, just no longer needed with the advent of multiple R'navs in da panel! Your jump ship captain knows how to use deez gizmos and put you right on target correcting for winds aloft and dem on the surface! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 September 2, 2005 QuoteNot a lost art, just no longer needed with the advent of multiple R'navs in da panel! Your jump ship captain knows how to use deez gizmos and put you right on target correcting for winds aloft and dem on the surface! RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHT Thats why NO one ver lands out anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RevJim 0 #25 September 2, 2005 Our DZ does throw a WDI before first load daily. People need to remember that the WDI doesn't give you the spot, it can only tell you about where you want to be open... We throw it at around 3 grand. If the uppers are really moving, you still need to adjust for freefall drift, and this really is a lost art... It's your life, live it! Karma RB#684 "Corcho", ASK#60, Muff#3520, NCB#398, NHDZ#4, C-33989, DG#1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
