Trae 1 #1 August 10, 2005 Would you skydive without an AAD ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmchristian 0 #2 August 10, 2005 Been there done that, got the T-shirt. :-) Chris -------- "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body; but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting 'Holy s#$* what a ride!'" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #3 August 10, 2005 I would and I have. I prefer to jump with one, but while dealing with some issues with mine recently, I chose to jump without it for about a week (8 jumps or so, I think)."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #4 August 10, 2005 QuoteWould you skydive without an AAD ? Yes I would. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #5 August 10, 2005 Sure! Does somebody somehow think that you CAN'T without one?? Guess I don't even understand the question. Or maybe you meant instead to start a poll (so as to make your answers somehow "meaningful")? Blue Skies, -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #6 August 10, 2005 And were you "scared" (maybe nervous is a better word?) any more than normal in any way Krisanne, or did you do ANYTHING at all any differently during any of those jumps due to this? Seriously. Just wondering. Blues, -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #7 August 10, 2005 Heck, I've been known to jump without a reserve! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigSky 2 #8 August 10, 2005 Granted Im a newbe but the answer is NO. It just dosent make sense to me not to have one. Why not make the sport as safe as you can. Then again I also put on my seat belt in the car, can you drive without one........sure.“Sometimes when I reflect back on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and their hopes and dreams. If I didn’t drink this beer, th Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RhondaLea 4 #9 August 10, 2005 QuoteHeck, I've been known to jump without a reserve! No, you've been known to jump with only a reserve. Imprecision does not become you, bill. rl P.S. re the original question, I did more than a few jumps w/o my CYPRES turned on.If you don't know where you're going, you should know where you came from. Gullah Proverb Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,439 #10 August 10, 2005 Have, a bunch. Did when it was being serviced, when I borrowed gear after a cutaway at a bigway camp, etc. etc. etc. I always wear my seatbelt. Would I ride in a car that didn't have one? Sure. Would I buy a car that didn't have one? Well, I have a motorcycle -- does that count? Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #11 August 10, 2005 QuoteGranted Im a newbe but the answer is NO. It just dosent make sense to me not to have one. Why not make the sport as safe as you can. Then again I also put on my seat belt in the car, can you drive without one........sure. How many airbags in your car? Side reinforcements? "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #12 August 10, 2005 QuoteAnd were you "scared" (maybe nervous is a better word?) any more than normal in any way Krisanne, or did you do ANYTHING at all any differently during any of those jumps due to this? Seriously. Just wondering. Honestly, no. Except for that slight change in my gear check process (looking in the AAD window and realizing "oh yeah, it's not there"), nothing changed about how I jumped. Or how I felt when I was jumping. It was a nice validation of how I hoped I would feel when "jumping without an AAD" was just a theoretical possibility, not an actual fact.When my rigger (who was also one of my instructors and is still a mentor) called me up to tell me he'd identified problems with my AAD during the repack and asked "Do you want me to close it up, anyway?" I hestiated for a second and he said something along the lines of "You know your job. You know how to make good decisions about what jumps to do and who to jump with." I realized he was right and whether or not I had an AAD, that was true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvilLurker 2 #13 August 10, 2005 Yes, but I prefer to have one when doing RW or night jumps. Solo jumps or hop n' pops, it's not a concern. I'd actually prefer it wasn't on during the climb to altitude, but that's not an option. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dgskydive 0 #14 August 10, 2005 Over 1400 times now.Dom Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 August 10, 2005 QuoteWould you skydive without an AAD ? 4,700 jumps without one. I'm still here. Must be some kind of frickin' miracle, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #16 August 10, 2005 Ahhhh... I see from whence you come now, my friend: Click HERE Carry on. -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malev 0 #17 August 10, 2005 QuoteWould you skydive without an AAD ? To me, it would make more sense to ask "Would you skydive if AADs were not available?". I wouldn't jump without an AAD at present, as I believe these minimise my risk (and risk management plays a large factor in the sport). Thats my personal choice. Would I jump without an AAD if tomorrow they were deemed un-airworthy? Definetly. But thats a different question altogether. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #18 August 10, 2005 Un-Fricken' believable, actually! -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #19 August 10, 2005 QuoteWhen my rigger (who was also one of my instructors and is still a mentor) called me up to tell me he'd identified problems with my AAD during the repack and asked "Do you want me to close it up, anyway?" I hestiated for a second and he said something along the lines of "You know your job. You know how to make good decisions about what jumps to do and who to jump with." I realized he was right and whether or not I had an AAD, that was true. Pardon the tangent, but if you send off the unit for its 4 year and jump the rest of the month without it, do you have the reserve repacked when it comes back, or wait till the next 120 day cycle? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hookitt 1 #20 August 10, 2005 QuoteHeck, I've been known to jump without a reserve! I've been known to jump without a main. At least that's how I look at it.My grammar sometimes resembles that of magnetic refrigerator poetry... Ghetto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #21 August 10, 2005 Up to you, wouldn't you say? Nothing (that I know of) says you HAVE TO re-open your "fresh" reserve pack job "early" to replace the returning/serviced Cypres. What would YOU do, and why? (There's no "wrong" answer there ...really) -Grantcoitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #22 August 10, 2005 QuotePardon the tangent, but if you send off the unit for its 4 year and jump the rest of the month without it, do you have the reserve repacked when it comes back, or wait till the next 120 day cycle? Mine was in for the 4-year just a few weeks ago. My rigger reinstalls the cypres when it comes back for free, so I had him put it right back in. I continued to jump without it while it was gone. It was actually kinda nice...one less thing to check/worry about on my gear. Aside from that, I didn't think about it. I definitely prefer to have one and wouldn't like jumping for an extended period without one, but a few jumps doesn't bother me. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nate_1979 9 #23 August 10, 2005 QuoteQuoteWould you skydive without an AAD ? To me, it would make more sense to ask "Would you skydive if AADs were not available?". I wouldn't jump without an AAD at present, as I believe these minimise my risk (and risk management plays a large factor in the sport). Thats my personal choice. Would I jump without an AAD if tomorrow they were deemed un-airworthy? Definetly. But thats a different question altogether. Thats my answer too FGF #??? I miss the sky... There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #24 August 10, 2005 QuotePardon the tangent, but if you send off the unit for its 4 year and jump the rest of the month without it, do you have the reserve repacked when it comes back, or wait till the next 120 day cycle? I have a Vigil. No scheduled maintenance. But, of course, I needed unscheduled maintenance on the unit. I chose to have him close it up and reopen it to put the Vigil back in when the replacement part came in. I did not have the reserve repacked at that time (only a week later) nor did it even occur to me to do so. Same rigger; all he did was note on my reserve data card that he'd reinstalled the Vigil on that date."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mdrejhon 8 #25 August 10, 2005 Yes, although my preference is to jump with one. However, an AAD away for a 4-year check is not going to stop me from jumping, but I may avoid those 2200 (CSPA minimum) feet hop-and-pop forced by low cloud cielings, or doing RW with somebody I don't know... Actually, scratch that. right now, my lowest hop-n-pop altitude would be 2500 if the pilot said clouds were too low and said we had to choose between jump or ride down. Although I definitely prefer 3500. Then again, there's the danger of 2-out situations, versus the chance of banging your head on the Cessna as you exit... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites