skymak 0 #1 July 23, 2005 what is the minumum requirement for a freefall cameraman to jump with a novice in AFF jumps according to 1) FAI 2)USPA 3)NZPA 4)APASome Men See Things As They Are And Say Why? I Dream Things That Never Works And Say Why Not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxim 0 #2 July 23, 2005 Pretty sure APF (Australian Parachute Federation) is 200 jumps. to jump with AFF/Tandems. and 100 jumps to jump camera. dont quote me though. Life is Great. Even Greater what we do with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #3 July 23, 2005 .... I get a little nervous when people are trying to aspire to "the minimum requirements"... Common sense and good adherance to safety concerns should dictate that a camera flyer have Much more than just the abilty to "buy a camera"... I'd think that AFF is one area of freefall camerawork that requires,, maximum "know how" and experience... that means at least 400 flatfly skydives ( IMHO ) and maybe as many as 100 camera jumps... While tandems can 'present the unexpected' from time to time,,, if you are working tandems with some capable and well experienced T Masters, a certain rythym gets established,, a certain 'script ' if you will and that lessens the likelihood of any surprises..... AND if there are surprises it becomes more readily noticable...AND you have the TM to assist in correcting the situation, or at least mitigating the safety concerns.. NOW go on an AFF dive and often all bets are off.... that student can do any number of things from exiting incorrectly,, to deploying when it's not expected.... to taking the jumpmasters for a wild and exciting ride.... Despite the best jumpmasters out there.. ANYthing can happen.... and so (again IMHO) only seasoned and well practiced camera people should be accompanying AFF groups, especially levels 1 and 2.... Mistime the exit or have a student leave early or late and things can get interesting... TOUCH or BUMP an AFF group on exit,,, and you're in trouble.... stay too far away and your video is less effective as a learning/critique tool, stay to close.. and you could be greeted with a facefull of pilot chute.... Not sure exactly what these various organizations might have to say about it.. but these organizations are NOT going out the door and into freefall with us... Best to err on the side of overcautious.. If you have to ask... maybe the answer would be,,,, "more experience than you currently have".. go slow,, go easy... Be sure that your flying skills are solid,, then acquire some experience with the camera either on fun jumps or on carefully controlled tandem jumps.... But for sure on most early level AFF dives,, while you may be looking at the student,, you can Bet your ass.. that the student won't be looking at you, at least NOT to point of being aware of where YOU are... the whole dive.... Perhaps your experience level is sufficient skymak. but with few details listed in your profile, I'd suggest asking about the MAXimum experience levels,, rather than the minimum good luck skydive safely jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skyyhi 0 #4 July 23, 2005 At Elsinore, they have a ground school for wanna be camera flyers. . .After the class, the flyers are encouraged to "volunteer" their camera time with the ExCel skills camp to gain practical experience. It gives the camera guys some experience and the camp gets some great training videos. I know this is a fairly new thing there and not sure how often they offer the class but I thought it was a great way to get camera flyers the experience they need to do other types of camera work. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
skyyhi 0 #4 July 23, 2005 At Elsinore, they have a ground school for wanna be camera flyers. . .After the class, the flyers are encouraged to "volunteer" their camera time with the ExCel skills camp to gain practical experience. It gives the camera guys some experience and the camp gets some great training videos. I know this is a fairly new thing there and not sure how often they offer the class but I thought it was a great way to get camera flyers the experience they need to do other types of camera work. . .________________________________________ Take risks not to escape life… but to prevent life from escaping. ~ A bumper sticker at the DZ FGF #6 Darcy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
