lisamariewillbe 1 #1 July 7, 2005 although I have refrained from posting I just thought I would let everyone know that while surfing ebay, I came upon a ad for skyride... UGH and well it had one bid. I proceeded to message the bidder. I asked that he check out dz.com and do a search for skyride. He retracted his bid. I then sent him the links for dropzones in his area (PA) I know, it was only one person I saved from this scam but it felt good to be nice for once.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #2 July 7, 2005 Was it an ad, or an auction of a certificate already purchased by someone?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 July 7, 2005 Glad you could stick your nose in someone elses business.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #4 July 7, 2005 Quote Glad you could stick your nose in someone elses business..... I'm glad you still don't care about businesses overtly hurting this sport...--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hooknswoop 19 #5 July 7, 2005 QuoteGlad you could stick your nose in someone elses business..... Arming someone with the information needed to make a good choice is not sticking your nose anywhere. Information allows people to not repeat others mistakes. Good job. JP-What do you think of things like Consumer Digest? Derek Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 July 7, 2005 Was that truely their motive? Or was it to hurt SkyRide? Once again, I'll point out that stooping to the methods of the organization you resent makes you no better than them. QuoteJP-What do you think of things like Consumer Digest? Consumer Digest informs. Factualy. It has never had the motive of shutting down a company, has never conducted in the practice of slander, and has never whined about things not being "fair". I'm no fan of SkyRide, but rather than participating or aligning ones self with a witchhune, I'd rather pursue legal action for wrongs done. Or maybe even filling the function they are but doing it better!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #7 July 7, 2005 Quote Was that truely their motive? Or was it to hurt SkyRide? Spreading good info about their bad ways is a good way to go about things. Sort of like when you find stolen gear on Ebay, you contact the seller and tell them, giving them sources. Or you could just ignore it JP, since that's what you seem to want us to do.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #8 July 7, 2005 This is what I told the bidder. Quotecheck out www.dropzone.com and type in skyride. Good luck Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #9 July 7, 2005 See, that's just good information sharing. They can check if they want, you're not spreading a bad vibe, you're just showing a source to check out if they wish. Hell, that's not even an effort on your part. Just a good and legal way to spread information to those that need it.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #10 July 7, 2005 And why? What good have you done for that person. Are you able to guarentee that they found a happy alternitive, or did you turn someone off from this sport because of that.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #11 July 7, 2005 QuoteGlad you could stick your nose in someone elses business..... all i got to say to you is edited out by Chuck. Keep it clean, Skimmy seriously.. no personal attacks there.,... just what i "and many others" think of you.... you want to play more? but then again, if they were supporting me also, i might think differently Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #12 July 7, 2005 Quoteor did you turn someone off from this sport because of that. Oh, that's right, you should support a company that has stolen thousands of dollars worth of copywrited material to simply get one more person to jump. A company that tries to scam DZs out of money with unethical tax practices. ***but then again, if they were supporting me also, i might think differently Funny how that works, huh Mark? Ethics be damned, right? If someone is getting their back scratched, then its hard to not support the ones doing the scratching. Eventually the skydiving community will look past this and see how much better everyone would be doing in a business sense, ethical sense as well as just as a community when Skyride has been put to pasture.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #13 July 7, 2005 I turned him onto DZ.com, and the dropzone listings as well as a utopia of information. When he responded to me I told him that any question he ever has as it relates to skydiving can be found.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #14 July 7, 2005 Nice. Since your mind is so clouded with hate for something I'll overlook the BS rant in your post. So you insinuate that I suport SkyRide. I don't. Never done business with them. What you have failed to do is show any sort of restraint or drive to actually fix what you see as a problem. Instead you have made the whole of skydivers seem like a bunch of whiney children. Other than those that can show FACTUAL legal transgressions (such as the theft of photographs) none of you have shown anything really positive. In the wuffo world there are hundreds of organizations that perform the same function as SkyRide. 1-800-Dentist, 1-800-Florist, etc. Where are any of you to chanpion the cause of the underdog dentist who doesn't think it fair. Hell in skydiving there is 1-800-Skydive. Who's protesting that? Without defending SkyRide, I know of several DZ's that can only thank SkyRide for helping them to be more sucessfull in a harsh economy when fun jumpers are unwilling to go and give their support. Don't like it? Make your own company.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 July 7, 2005 QuoteFunny how that works, huh Mark? Ethics be damned, right? If someone is getting their back scratched, then its hard to not support the ones doing the scratching. Watch what you say. If you are acusing me of being aligned with SkyRide in anyway, you'd be mistaken, and incidentialy pretty much showing your ass....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #16 July 7, 2005 lolSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 July 7, 2005 Here's the thing. Barring those that have a legitimit legal beef, the rest of you have arguments that fallflat on their faces very shortly. Then it degenerates int personal attacks. I've never defended SkyRide, and all I've ever done is sugest ways to change the problem. I have never accepted one dime of SkyRides profits.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #18 July 7, 2005 QuoteI know of several DZ's that can only thank SkyRide for helping them to be more sucessfull in a harsh economy when fun jumpers are unwilling to go and give their support. Firstly, successful DZs have facilities and AC to support their student business (not just tandems, but all students). If they need fun jumpers to survive then they're stretching too thin to begin with. Quote Other than those that can show FACTUAL legal transgressions (such as the theft of photographs) none of you have shown anything really positive. Here you go. A good while back, (a couple of years ago) before the Skyride problem had reached a head and facts started coming out, a DZ I know used them a bit. They refused to stop sending their certificates to us after multipul statements that we didn't take them (they were gouging our prices). Then after the fiscal year, they sent them tax forms (can't remember the form number right now) as per a business using contract labor. That was putting the DZ, an independant business, in a situation that legally suggested they were a contract laborer for Skyride. The implications from a business ownership stand point are staggering. Now to continue, the sales tax (etc) involved with transactions for skydiving are included in the price, the DZ pays them, end of story. If you buy a skydive for someone else, you deal with the taxes yourself within the price presented. Taxing outside of that, if you're a resaler, is apart of your pricing stratagy. You do not setup a system in which you have the wholesaler pay your sales tax as a retailer. Period.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #19 July 7, 2005 Quoteincidentialy pretty much showing your ass.... most peeps that know me also know i dont mind showing my ass... my ass is clean and pure... 100% real.. like it or not.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #20 July 7, 2005 I didnt attack them, I just gave someone who was interested in there services a website where they could learn more about them. Just like when someone is checking out electronic prices I send them to pricescan.comSudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #21 July 7, 2005 QuoteWatch what you say. If you are acusing me of being aligned with SkyRide in anyway, you'd be mistaken, and incidentialy pretty much showing your ass.... That was said in a general statement in regards to how people tend to react to Skyride. Not directed towards you. If you have a guilty concious, that's your problem. I've never personally met you and have no clue if you do business with them or not. If you do, fine, I feel sorry for you. Call me names if you like, it doesn't bother me, but feel free to respond to the things I posted if you truely can.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks 0 #22 July 7, 2005 QuoteI didnt attack them, I just gave someone who was interested in there services a website where they could learn more about them. Just like when someone is checking out electronic prices I send them to pricescan.com sweathert, this has been an issue for a while. it isnt about you, so please dont feel like anyone is attacking you. there is just some emotion behind it, you havent read it before because im sure it was deleted, just like all my posts on here. i get a little riled up about this sometime... he is on the west coast and has no idea of the truth, and makes smart ass little comments. and im not going to take them lightly anymore. i just wish he could be educated on what the real truth was, insted of being a smartass... and here i go again, letting my emotional side hang out... sorry.. and goodnight!//./ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #23 July 7, 2005 QuoteThen after the fiscal year, they sent them tax forms (can't remember the form number right now) as per a business using contract labor. A 1099MISC form, line 7, "Non-employee compensation?" If so, that is required by the IRS. Our company, with millions in revenue, and hundreds of employees, receives the same form from our customers every year. All it tells the IRS is that you received money from another business, which is revenue you can expense against. While I don't want to say my comments about skyride, if they DID NOT send this 1099 form, they could have been fined by the IRS. Sounds 100% legit to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lisamariewillbe 1 #24 July 7, 2005 I dont care about him, he is not nearly as cool as you and aggiedave are.Sudsy Fist: i don't think i'd ever say this Sudsy Fist: but you're looking damn sudsydoable in this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #25 July 7, 2005 Quote A 1099MISC form, line 7, "Non-employee compensation?" ... While I don't want to say my comments about skyride, if they DID NOT send this 1099 form, they could have been fined by the IRS. Sounds 100% legit to me. No, that wasn't it. Damnit with being tired and it being late, I can't remember exactly what it was but that wasn't it. Oh well, maybe it'll come to me in the morning, but screw it for now, the weery need sleep.--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
