Lists of riggers' "saves"

[pchapman 279]

Just for fun,
here are web pages that have lists of "saves", where a rigger or loft lists their reserve pack jobs that got used.
Any others out there?

Other riggers mention their total of saves but haven't spent the time to put them all online.

http://www.chutingstar.com/saves.php

http://www.parachuteriggers.com/saves.htm

http://web.ionsys.com/~pchapman/saves.htm
(That's my own modest list.)

http://keats.admin.virginia.edu/deanrigging/rigging_saves.htm


Similar but not quite in the same category are a number of save stories from users of Precision reserves:
http://www.precision.aero/saves.htm

Then there's the big list that Airtec keeps on Cypres saves:
http://www.cypres-usa.com/saves05b.pdf

[heidihagen 0]

i didn't click all of them.. but it's interesting. thanks.
out of curiousity- from parachuteriggers.com:

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#31 - Jumper dislocated shoulder during exit, unable to deploy main with right arm. Deployed reserve below 1,000'
#20 - July 01 - Dislocated right shoulder, unable to deploy main.

is this common?? i've never heard of it happening. did they hit their shoulder on the door?

i didn't lose my mind, i sold it on ebay. .:need a container to fit 5'4", 110 lb. cypres ready & able to fit a 170 main (or slightly smaller):.[/ce

[darkwing 5]

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#31 - Jumper dislocated shoulder during exit, unable to deploy main with right arm. Deployed reserve below 1,000'
#20 - July 01 - Dislocated right shoulder, unable to deploy main.
is this common?? i've never heard of it happening. did they hit their shoulder on the door?

I have seen it a couple of times. Last year, during 10-way practice, one of my teammates had this happen. It was a rough exit for several of us. He opened his reserve, but at a good altitude.

Many years ago I was in the air with a guy who dislocated a shoulder also, but it wasn't on exit.

-- Jeff
My Skydiving History

[ryand96 0]

I just looked at the Chutingstar page. I noticed that one person had 15 reserve rides on there! That's a lot of Guiness!

[packerboy 3]

I hope ASC does alot of students...

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In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson

[tso-d_chris 0]

I've heard of it often enough that I rarely if ever recommend a tiny reserve, no matter what the choice of main.

For Great Deals on Gear

[riggerrob 643]

When the tradition of buying booze for your rigger died, I quit counting my "saves."
Just know that I had 6 saves last year, out of 200 reserve pack jobs.

[NickDG 23]

Cool, thanks for the memory jog, "Time Bombs" was something I wrote for Precision a long time ago and I enjoyed reading it again . . .

NickD BASE 194

[skiskyrock 0]

I saw that too. Who is this Kaminski guy, and wouldn't he be happier playing golf?

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[sid 1]

when I see (or hear of) a reserve I've packed being used I don't consdier it a "save" - there's a quiet sense of satisfaction that I did my job properly, but the person using the rig saved their own life by pulling the right handles in the correct order.

The best packed reserve in the world and the equipment maintained to the highest standards won't do a damned thing unless the jumper pulls the handles..........

I've always thought it a little egotistical to claim a "save" when you weren't under the actual canopy that malfunctioned (just my $0.02)

Pete Draper,

Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right?

[NickDG 23]

I understand what you mean, but for those two seconds after he pulled the reserve handle, it was pretty much out of his hands, and it was all in yours. Believe me, while he was releasing the brakes he was thinking, "thank you, Sid . . ."

It's a tradition that we call them saves, and if he shows up at your loft with a bottle of Scotch, for sure don't be all humble and digging your toe in the dirt. Sending him away with the idea it was all him and well, gee, I like Scotch too.

The darker side of this would be a reserve failing, for whatever reason, and the rigger saying the jumper messed up. You see how it works? You can't do that. Accepting the Scotch, and the responsibility is so much better . . .

So, go ahead, you saved him; you don't have to count them, but call it that way.

And BTW, on your last one, nice save, brother . . .

NickD BASE 194

[RossDagley 0]

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I just looked at the Chutingstar page. I noticed that one person had 15 reserve rides on there! That's a lot of Guiness!

Indeed - one that got my attention was Mike Gruwell with 5 reserve rides in 6 months, two on a tandem two weeks apart. Thats gotta stop being fun after a point...

[riggerrob 643]

Indeed - one that got my attention was Mike Gruwell with 5 reserve rides in 6 months, two on a tandem two weeks apart. Thats gotta stop being fun after a point...

[RossDagley 0]

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Indeed - one that got my attention was Mike Gruwell with 5 reserve rides in 6 months, two on a tandem two weeks apart. Thats gotta stop being fun after a point...

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The fun soon pales.

My last couple of tandem reserve rides in Hemet, California were with tandem level two students.

"You see that broken line on the right side?
We don't want to land this.
(laying cutaway handle on his right shoulder) pull this red handle and arch some more."

[chutingstar 1]

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I just looked at the Chutingstar page. I noticed that one person had 15 reserve rides on there! That's a lot of Guiness!

He never bought a single case for the loft

All of those were on his personal Vector tandem system packed by himself or his girlfriend.

Anyway...he's a rigger himself now, jumping at another DZ and I'm sure packing his own, saving him a bit of money if he's still having the same rate of malfunctions.

Mike

ChutingStar.com

[mjosparky 4]

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when I see (or hear of) a reserve I've packed being used I don't consdier it a "save" - there's a quiet sense of satisfaction that I did my job properly, but the person using the rig saved their own life by pulling the right handles in the correct order.

The best packed reserve in the world and the equipment maintained to the highest standards won't do a damned thing unless the jumper pulls the handles..........

I've always thought it a little egotistical to claim a "save" when you weren't under the actual canopy that malfunctioned (just my $0.02)

I tend to agree with you. I may have inspected it, certified it as airworthy and packed it up, but it was the jumper with a wad of shit above his/her head that made it work. jmo

But if they insist, I will take the bottle of Kettle One and pat them on the back and say “Good job, will done, faithful service a copy of this will be made a part of your permanent record”.

Sparky

My idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals

[sid 1]

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But if they insist, I will take the bottle of Kettle One and pat them on the back and say “Good job, will done, faithful service a copy of this will be made a part of your permanent record”.

Sparky

I never said I wouldn't take a bottle of Merlot

Pete Draper,

Just because my life plan is written on the back of a Hooter's Napkin, it's still a life plan.... right?