cpoxon 0 #1 April 22, 2005 From http://www.pe.com/localnews/southwest/stories/PE_News_Local_S_skydive22.ef6e.html (requires registration) Quote343 MPH: He passes the current best, 325.67 mph, in a jump at the Perris Valley Skydiving Center. 11:23 PM PDT on Thursday, April 21, 2005 By SHANNON STARR / The Press-Enterprise PERRIS - Luis Cani has been diving headfirst into his work all week. After all, that is the only way he can generate enough speed to set the world record for men's speed sky diving. Cani, a 34-year-old from Brazil, has been making six jumps a day at Perris Valley Skydiving Center. Four days ago, he accomplished his goal when he reached a speed of 343 mph, topping the current record of 325.67 mph, set in 1999 by Michael Brooke, of France. On Thursday, Cani made another jump to celebrate and to demonstrate what it took to beat the record, topping out at 240 mph. Cani first must don a special suit and pack 90 pounds of extra weight on his 145-pound frame. Then he jumps out of an airplane at 13,000 feet. For 10 seconds, he dives headfirst. "There is a lot of power, pressure and resistance," he said Thursday before his jump. "It's hard to feel your body at that speed." After he has reached full speed, Cani faces another challenge: slowing down. If the parachute opens early, Cani said, it can mean death. A series of beeps from a mini computer in his helmet alerts Cani when he has reached the altitude where he has to slow his rate of descent. Then he starts moving his arms and arching his back to decrease his speed. Once he is traveling slowly enough, he can deploy his parachute at 3,000 feet above the ground. For his final jump, Cani went aloft with the Canadian Forces Parachute Team, the SkyHawks. Hmm, I wonder if his foray into Speed Skydiving has anything to do with his sponsors? ;-P I don't think Mike had any weight on when he set his record. The International Speed Skydiving Association's rules state QuoteNo weights are allowed for the competition. Would he be competitive without weights? Edit: added picture from articleSkydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #2 April 22, 2005 Quote Would he be competitive without weights? He's tiny. That's not going to help... tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Travman 6 #3 April 22, 2005 WOW. This is the same guy that landed the VX-39, now he is competing in speed... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #4 April 22, 2005 Are you saying that being small is a disadvantage? Actually, come to think about it, can 90 lbs be right? How do you physically wear that much weight? That's nearly 6.5 stone. Most weight belts are about 12 lbs? So that's the equivalent of 7.5 weight belts! It must be quite arduous just walking around with that much extra weight on, let alone landing. I wonder what size canopy he jumps with that much weight?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #5 April 22, 2005 Billvon posted in the exit order thread this post, which must be about this guy.... Quote>1. Speed Skydivers... Why are they first? Define speed skydivers... A guy who is attempting to fall at 300+mph. We put them out first at Perris because right now it's just one guy, and he wears about 75lbs of weight, and he jumps a sub-80 sq ft canopy. He's often landing as the second group opens. If we had a wide variety of speed skydivers it would likely make more sense to give them their own pass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 April 22, 2005 QuoteAre you saying that being small is a disadvantage? I don't know much about speed skydiving. In my experience big, heavy people fall faster than small, light people. In a disipline that does not allow the wearing of weight, I'd imagine that Heavy people would have the advantage, in the same way that light people have the advantage when flying wingsuits. If you want to compete, by all means go ahead, but if you want to win, 1. Stick to the rules. Choosing a disipline that suits your body type is a good idea in all sports. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #7 April 22, 2005 QuoteMost weight belts are about 12 lbs Yeah... I know of a guy in a 4 way team who was wearing 2 vests for 30 lbs total.. But 90 lbs is an awfull lot. Either way, sounds like its not a "real" record according to the Speed rules. Still impressive.Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #8 April 22, 2005 Right now as we speak the world record holder is a small skinny guy and the world champion is a big heavy guy. According to the seminar I sat in on with the world champion, it's more about tecnique than build. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #9 April 22, 2005 From http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1596913#1596913 Quotehe wears about 75lbs of weight, and he jumps a sub-80 sq ft canopy. So, a 145 pound guy plus 75lbs of lead (or more) and say 10lb of (small) gear (probably an underestimate) equals 230 lbs under a 79 square foot canopy equals a wing loading of 2.91:1. He really doesn't want a premature! Or a reserve ride! Any idea what size reserve he has in that setup? Any idead if he can jettison the weight? Speed skydiving is pretty risky at the best of times; why multiply that with small canopies and extra weight?Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #10 April 22, 2005 You're right, it's mostly the technique... But a nice average build would help too... You probably know Alan Thompson, Jr, the deaf Brit jumper. He's only 5'-8" tall and weighs around 150 to 160 pounds, but he hit just over 300 mph in a speed jump, and has been competing in some of the speed competitions in England..."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydiverek 63 #11 April 22, 2005 Quotetopping the current record of 325.67 mph, set in 1999 by Michael Brooke, of France. From http://speedskydiving.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=Official&action=display&num=1085155264 "Congratulations goes out to Mike Brooke of France as well, but unfortunately for the wrong merit. The Guinness Book inaccurately states: "The highest speed ever reached in a speed skydiving competition is 524.13 kmph (325.67 mph) by France's Michael Brooke at the Millennium Speed Skydiving Competition over Gap, France, on September 19, 1999." This is wrong. Whoever informed the Guinness Book of World Records about this was either lying out of personal interest, or was just terribly misinformed. In either case, the damage is done, and this is the first step to rectify that error. The highest speed reached in a speed skydiving competition BEFORE the change in ways of how we measure speed (in 2000) is 531.77 kmph (330.50 mph) by Italy's Roberto Franceschetti at the World Speed Skydiving Competition over DeLand, USA, in November, 1999. But Franceschettis World Record, along with Brookes old record and all files of the pre-2000 era, was supposed to have been wiped from the history books following the change in how to measure speed in speed skydiving competitions. Brooke was in the forefront of this change. Despite this, Mike Brooke has appeared in several ads for a parachute manufacturer (i.e. issues of Skydiving Magazine) boasting about his false world record, and now also in the Guinness Book of World Record 2004. We can only speculate as to why Brooke continues to portray a false record, and how the Guinness Book of World Records was misinformed about the same inaccuracy, and why they still chose to sanction the false record as a Guinness World Record? Last year, as the originator of Speed Skydiving, I was contacted by the Guinness Book of World Records. I informed them about the current world record of speed skydiving - Mike Brooke's 495 kmph done over Lille, France, 2002. Along with the correct information, I also gave them Mike Brookes email adress. As the originator of speed skydiving, and as one of the many speed skydiving competitors who is working for the acceptance and spread of speed skydiving worldwide, I can not idly sit by and let this pass without a comment. The facts of this post has been forwarded to Mike Brooke, The Guinness Book of World Records, Skydiving Magazine (and other media), Parachute de France, Larsen & Brusgaard, FAI and the parachuting associations of the world. For The International Speed Skydiving Association Ken Hansen With Fabrice Lebiedzinski, Stan Snigir, Mark Calland, Philippe Corthesy. PS. Mike Brooke replied: "Hello Ken nice to hear from you. Thanks for the info, I didn't even know about it! Hope all is well any way, I've got a lot of work right now and not too much time. See you, Mike". The ISSA expects Mike Brooke's cooperation in correcting the Guinness World Record error, the use of the wrong record in ads in other publications, and to stop claiming to have a false record as a record in any other places aswell, i.e. the staff-page of his new dropzone. No reply has been received by The Guinness Book of World Records, yet. As of May 21: Mike Brooke has added his correct world record to the staff-page, but is still listing the erroneous one, abhorrent to all agreements when the new rules came into play." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cpoxon 0 #12 April 22, 2005 QuoteIn my experience big, heavy people fall faster than small, light people. True. However, I believe it is only an initial advantage during the early acceleration. Later on in the dive, larger people with larger surface area create more drag so the slighter people have more advantage here. Mike Brooke is not a heavy person, and neither is Stan and yet they do very well. When I used to compete, I always used to say that my weight made up for my lack of skill (I weighed 210 lb /95 kg). I'd like to see what I can achieve now that I have lost 42 lb (19 kg) and gained (a little more) skill. Quote If you want to compete, by all means go ahead, but if you want to win, 1. Stick to the rules. From what I hear, Luigi is intending to compete and if he does, he will have to stick to the rules, which means no weight. As to "World Records", who is to say what is official or not and which rules apply? Bruno Gouvy used a weighted nosecone when he achieved his record of 335 mph.Skydiving Fatalities - Cease not to learn 'til thou cease to live Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #13 April 22, 2005 My understanding was that some guy from Lichtenstein was the world record holder. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tmontana 0 #14 April 22, 2005 technically dosent' this guy hold the record http://www.rb-29.net/HTML/27JoKittinger/27StysJoeKittinger.html___________________________________________ "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #15 April 22, 2005 Depends what record you're talking about. For a record within the sport of "speed skydiving" you have to fulfull certain criteria relating to exit altitude, the altitudes between which your speed is recorded and the equipment used to record that speed. As Colonel Kittinger did not use red ISSA protracks and was under canopy before hitting the entry gates for the measurement part of his dive he probably wouldn't score too well. Besides he was in drogue fall not free fall if you want to be pedantic. But for the fastest falling human being - sure he trumps any speed skydiver hands down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,026 #16 April 22, 2005 QuoteYou're right, it's mostly the technique... But a nice average build would help too... You probably know Alan Thompson, Jr, the deaf Brit jumper. He's only 5'-8" tall and weighs around 150 to 160 pounds, but he hit just over 300 mph in a speed jump, and has been competing in some of the speed competitions in England... What you need for max speed and acceleration is a high ratio of weight to (drag coefficient x area presented to the relative wind). Technique is certainly the major player here, but someone tall would have a distinct geometric advantage in a head down dive.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #17 April 22, 2005 QuoteQuoteYou're right, it's mostly the technique... But a nice average build would help too... You probably know Alan Thompson, Jr, the deaf Brit jumper. He's only 5'-8" tall and weighs around 150 to 160 pounds, but he hit just over 300 mph in a speed jump, and has been competing in some of the speed competitions in England... What you need for max speed and acceleration is a high ratio of weight to (drag coefficient x area presented to the relative wind). Technique is certainly the major player here, but someone tall would have a distinct geometric advantage in a head down dive. *** Hummmmm...! I'm 6'4" and 240 nekid.... ZOOOOOMMMM??? ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #18 April 22, 2005 QuoteHummmmm...! I'm 6'4" and 240 nekid.... ZOOOOOMMMM??? How you doin Wanna race Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #19 April 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteHummmmm...! I'm 6'4" and 240 nekid.... ZOOOOOMMMM??? How you doin Wanna race? *** Hi gril! Lew Sanborn Accuri meet tomorrow... tryin' to stuff a 252 into a container NEVER meant for it! SURE! I'll race ya! I don't have me one O' them 'slick suits' so I'll have to go NEKID! ...oh wait...too much drag THAT wat too! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #20 April 23, 2005 Well at least it would be plastered against your leg.... instead of like the guy in the German video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HydroGuy 0 #21 April 23, 2005 QuoteFrom http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1596913#1596913 Quotehe wears about 75lbs of weight, and he jumps a sub-80 sq ft canopy. So, a 145 pound guy plus 75lbs of lead (or more) and say 10lb of (small) gear (probably an underestimate) equals 230 lbs under a 79 square foot canopy equals a wing loading of 2.91:1. He really doesn't want a premature! Or a reserve ride! Any idea what size reserve he has in that setup? Any idead if he can jettison the weight? Speed skydiving is pretty risky at the best of times; why multiply that with small canopies and extra weight? Not sure about the rules and records and so forth, but I have done several loads with Luigi (sp?). He does wear about 80 pounds of weight. And this weight is worn under a full wetsuit type Lycra skin...no dumping this weight. He has so much weight on it looks like he has ammunition bandoliers or some serious ballistic body armor as undergarments.. The first time I saw him geared up, I asked one of my instructors if he was jumping in Dianese Body Armour or something His canopy is small...if someone said sub 80, they weren't kidding. And his rig is small...meaning a small reserve. He is @ Perris during the mid week all the time, and very friendly. He actually gave me more advice on student status than any other non-instructor at the DZ. He was the first person to recommend me taking a canopy skills class as soon as I got my A. And he was the first non-instructor to congratulate me after I completed my A check dive.Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maxmadmax 8 #22 April 24, 2005 As far as speed goes...he was hauling ass! As far as the ISSA rules go...can't wear weights. It's all a function of drag, weight, presented cross sectional area & air density. I admire the ISSA rules for the 1000 meter gate. (2800 -1800 meters) But I don't want to be hauling ass at 5400 ft. And by the way......I hit 320 mph. No problem. But it's higher than the rules allow. Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #23 April 24, 2005 Quoteit's more about tecnique than build. I've been telling women that for years. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites courage 0 #24 April 24, 2005 Speed Skydiving Records can only be set during an official competition according to the International Speed Skydiving Rules. In short they state, "no extra weight allowed. The speed is measured as the AVERAGE over 1000 meters". During many years of trial and error, speed skydiving has found the current and most accurate way of finding the speed in freefall. With this we can be looked upon as a serious sport, where competitiors follow the same rules. It saddens me to see that, instead of helping Speed Skydiving as a sport forward, Mike Brooke, and now, Luis Cani with the help of Go Fast Sports, is taking it many, many steps backwards. I suspect that Cani and Go Fast Sports doesn't know better, but Mike Brooke does. We have been where they are, and they are wrong. Mike Brooke has falsely claimed to have the record, and has falsely been awarded the Guinness Record. It hope that Cani and Go Fast Sports stay clear of making the same mistake. Join a competition instead. Sincerely, Ken Hansen www.speedskydiving.com PS. I also want to mention that I did hit maximum speed readings of 380 mph, 362 mph, and 327 mph over Skydive DeLand in 1998. This was before we (both Mike Brooke and I) realized that maximum readings are wrong. They may be triggered to register a wrong maximum speed. Brooke learned this in 1999, used it in a competition in France, and was then in the forefront of the battle against false maximum readings, starting with the 2001 season. All records from before that season was supposed to be wiped off all sheets. But after the 2004 season, Brooke turned around and falsely claimed to have the world record and was awarded a Guinness record, even though several people had gotten even faster, I mean falser, readings before Brooke got his result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Staso 0 #25 April 24, 2005 interesting conversation about speed skydiving. as Ken said in prior post I do wish to that Luis Cani would join a competition and help promote it and move it in the right direction. there will be a meet in the US July this year (http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/calendar/detail_page.cgi?ID=99&d=1) and it would be nice if Luis could show up and prove how fast he can go. it would make an interesting competition. stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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airtwardo 7 #19 April 23, 2005 QuoteQuoteHummmmm...! I'm 6'4" and 240 nekid.... ZOOOOOMMMM??? How you doin Wanna race? *** Hi gril! Lew Sanborn Accuri meet tomorrow... tryin' to stuff a 252 into a container NEVER meant for it! SURE! I'll race ya! I don't have me one O' them 'slick suits' so I'll have to go NEKID! ...oh wait...too much drag THAT wat too! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #20 April 23, 2005 Well at least it would be plastered against your leg.... instead of like the guy in the German video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites HydroGuy 0 #21 April 23, 2005 QuoteFrom http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1596913#1596913 Quotehe wears about 75lbs of weight, and he jumps a sub-80 sq ft canopy. So, a 145 pound guy plus 75lbs of lead (or more) and say 10lb of (small) gear (probably an underestimate) equals 230 lbs under a 79 square foot canopy equals a wing loading of 2.91:1. He really doesn't want a premature! Or a reserve ride! Any idea what size reserve he has in that setup? Any idead if he can jettison the weight? Speed skydiving is pretty risky at the best of times; why multiply that with small canopies and extra weight? Not sure about the rules and records and so forth, but I have done several loads with Luigi (sp?). He does wear about 80 pounds of weight. And this weight is worn under a full wetsuit type Lycra skin...no dumping this weight. He has so much weight on it looks like he has ammunition bandoliers or some serious ballistic body armor as undergarments.. The first time I saw him geared up, I asked one of my instructors if he was jumping in Dianese Body Armour or something His canopy is small...if someone said sub 80, they weren't kidding. And his rig is small...meaning a small reserve. He is @ Perris during the mid week all the time, and very friendly. He actually gave me more advice on student status than any other non-instructor at the DZ. He was the first person to recommend me taking a canopy skills class as soon as I got my A. And he was the first non-instructor to congratulate me after I completed my A check dive.Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites maxmadmax 8 #22 April 24, 2005 As far as speed goes...he was hauling ass! As far as the ISSA rules go...can't wear weights. It's all a function of drag, weight, presented cross sectional area & air density. I admire the ISSA rules for the 1000 meter gate. (2800 -1800 meters) But I don't want to be hauling ass at 5400 ft. And by the way......I hit 320 mph. No problem. But it's higher than the rules allow. Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites QuickDraw 0 #23 April 24, 2005 Quoteit's more about tecnique than build. I've been telling women that for years. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites courage 0 #24 April 24, 2005 Speed Skydiving Records can only be set during an official competition according to the International Speed Skydiving Rules. In short they state, "no extra weight allowed. The speed is measured as the AVERAGE over 1000 meters". During many years of trial and error, speed skydiving has found the current and most accurate way of finding the speed in freefall. With this we can be looked upon as a serious sport, where competitiors follow the same rules. It saddens me to see that, instead of helping Speed Skydiving as a sport forward, Mike Brooke, and now, Luis Cani with the help of Go Fast Sports, is taking it many, many steps backwards. I suspect that Cani and Go Fast Sports doesn't know better, but Mike Brooke does. We have been where they are, and they are wrong. Mike Brooke has falsely claimed to have the record, and has falsely been awarded the Guinness Record. It hope that Cani and Go Fast Sports stay clear of making the same mistake. Join a competition instead. Sincerely, Ken Hansen www.speedskydiving.com PS. I also want to mention that I did hit maximum speed readings of 380 mph, 362 mph, and 327 mph over Skydive DeLand in 1998. This was before we (both Mike Brooke and I) realized that maximum readings are wrong. They may be triggered to register a wrong maximum speed. Brooke learned this in 1999, used it in a competition in France, and was then in the forefront of the battle against false maximum readings, starting with the 2001 season. All records from before that season was supposed to be wiped off all sheets. But after the 2004 season, Brooke turned around and falsely claimed to have the world record and was awarded a Guinness record, even though several people had gotten even faster, I mean falser, readings before Brooke got his result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Staso 0 #25 April 24, 2005 interesting conversation about speed skydiving. as Ken said in prior post I do wish to that Luis Cani would join a competition and help promote it and move it in the right direction. there will be a meet in the US July this year (http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/calendar/detail_page.cgi?ID=99&d=1) and it would be nice if Luis could show up and prove how fast he can go. it would make an interesting competition. stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. 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Amazon 7 #20 April 23, 2005 Well at least it would be plastered against your leg.... instead of like the guy in the German video Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HydroGuy 0 #21 April 23, 2005 QuoteFrom http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1596913#1596913 Quotehe wears about 75lbs of weight, and he jumps a sub-80 sq ft canopy. So, a 145 pound guy plus 75lbs of lead (or more) and say 10lb of (small) gear (probably an underestimate) equals 230 lbs under a 79 square foot canopy equals a wing loading of 2.91:1. He really doesn't want a premature! Or a reserve ride! Any idea what size reserve he has in that setup? Any idead if he can jettison the weight? Speed skydiving is pretty risky at the best of times; why multiply that with small canopies and extra weight? Not sure about the rules and records and so forth, but I have done several loads with Luigi (sp?). He does wear about 80 pounds of weight. And this weight is worn under a full wetsuit type Lycra skin...no dumping this weight. He has so much weight on it looks like he has ammunition bandoliers or some serious ballistic body armor as undergarments.. The first time I saw him geared up, I asked one of my instructors if he was jumping in Dianese Body Armour or something His canopy is small...if someone said sub 80, they weren't kidding. And his rig is small...meaning a small reserve. He is @ Perris during the mid week all the time, and very friendly. He actually gave me more advice on student status than any other non-instructor at the DZ. He was the first person to recommend me taking a canopy skills class as soon as I got my A. And he was the first non-instructor to congratulate me after I completed my A check dive.Get in - Get off - Get away....repeat as neccessary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maxmadmax 8 #22 April 24, 2005 As far as speed goes...he was hauling ass! As far as the ISSA rules go...can't wear weights. It's all a function of drag, weight, presented cross sectional area & air density. I admire the ISSA rules for the 1000 meter gate. (2800 -1800 meters) But I don't want to be hauling ass at 5400 ft. And by the way......I hit 320 mph. No problem. But it's higher than the rules allow. Don't go away mad....just go away! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QuickDraw 0 #23 April 24, 2005 Quoteit's more about tecnique than build. I've been telling women that for years. -- Hope you don't die. -- I'm fucking winning Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
courage 0 #24 April 24, 2005 Speed Skydiving Records can only be set during an official competition according to the International Speed Skydiving Rules. In short they state, "no extra weight allowed. The speed is measured as the AVERAGE over 1000 meters". During many years of trial and error, speed skydiving has found the current and most accurate way of finding the speed in freefall. With this we can be looked upon as a serious sport, where competitiors follow the same rules. It saddens me to see that, instead of helping Speed Skydiving as a sport forward, Mike Brooke, and now, Luis Cani with the help of Go Fast Sports, is taking it many, many steps backwards. I suspect that Cani and Go Fast Sports doesn't know better, but Mike Brooke does. We have been where they are, and they are wrong. Mike Brooke has falsely claimed to have the record, and has falsely been awarded the Guinness Record. It hope that Cani and Go Fast Sports stay clear of making the same mistake. Join a competition instead. Sincerely, Ken Hansen www.speedskydiving.com PS. I also want to mention that I did hit maximum speed readings of 380 mph, 362 mph, and 327 mph over Skydive DeLand in 1998. This was before we (both Mike Brooke and I) realized that maximum readings are wrong. They may be triggered to register a wrong maximum speed. Brooke learned this in 1999, used it in a competition in France, and was then in the forefront of the battle against false maximum readings, starting with the 2001 season. All records from before that season was supposed to be wiped off all sheets. But after the 2004 season, Brooke turned around and falsely claimed to have the world record and was awarded a Guinness record, even though several people had gotten even faster, I mean falser, readings before Brooke got his result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Staso 0 #25 April 24, 2005 interesting conversation about speed skydiving. as Ken said in prior post I do wish to that Luis Cani would join a competition and help promote it and move it in the right direction. there will be a meet in the US July this year (http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/calendar/detail_page.cgi?ID=99&d=1) and it would be nice if Luis could show up and prove how fast he can go. it would make an interesting competition. stan. -- it's not about defying gravity; it's how hard you can abuse it. speed skydiving it is ... Speed Skydiving Forum Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
