airtwardo 7 #26 March 21, 2005 I used to fix tears on mine with fucking duct tape and it Quote I was a large economy size Pap user... I would often tear (re; blow up) a pannel or two on the back side of the canopy... I'd always stop at Rigger "Jumpin' Jack" Tillman's place in Pekin, Illinois to get it repaired. I was a broke college student, so Jack would fix the parachute...feed me a huge plate of spagetti, give me a beer and send me on my way... ALL WITHOUT CHARGE! Jack is in his mid 70's now and still jumps EVERY weekend... I see him now and then, and he always asks if I wasn't maybe puttin' a KNIFE to that ole Pap ~just to get a hot meal!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skypuppy 1 #27 March 21, 2005 I was a large economy size Pap user... I would often tear (re; blow up) a pannel or two on the back side of the canopy... I'd always stop at Rigger "Jumpin' Jack" Tillman's place in Pekin, Illinois to get it repaired. I was a broke college student, so Jack would fix the parachute...feed me a huge plate of spagetti, give me a beer and send me on my way... ALL WITHOUT CHARGE! Jack is in his mid 70's now and still jumps EVERY weekend... I see him now and then, and he always asks if I wasn't maybe puttin' a KNIFE to that ole Pap ~just to get a hot meal!! __________________________________________________ Airtwardo You should get him to write a book or something....If some old guy can do it then obviously it can't be very extreme. Otherwise he'd already be dead. Bruce McConkey 'I thought we were gonna die, and I couldn't think of anyone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,447 #28 March 21, 2005 I stood up a lot more than I fell down, and I'm much more willing to PLF than most folks. I've stood up cheapos, too, but I only weighed about 130 then (no, not geared up). I agree with the "pull the risers just before landing" thing. I'd also suggest that if you haven't jumped a PC before, you assume you're going to fall down. The timing is different from a square, and you're more likely to hurt yourself by using old skills on a new task that requires careful timing. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #29 March 21, 2005 Quoteand you're more likely to hurt yourself by using old skills on a new task that requires careful timing. Quote Yeah..that's what the wife keeps tellin' me! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #30 March 21, 2005 I had the pleasure of being on a jump last year watching a buddy of mine jump a Paradactyl, what a crazy looking thing. He stood it up. He radioed down from the plane about 1000ft from jump altitude to ask if he was supposed to flare it. Well he tried once up high and it was pretty frightening to watch. Anybody have any pictures of one of those in flight? I don't think they were around too long. . -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airman1270 0 #31 March 21, 2005 QuotePC's are amazing, for rounds. They can be landed very softly, but of course they can also land very hard... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh yeah... In 1994 I borrowed a friend's PC, my first jump on one of these in 10 years. The first group, a 6-way, took too long in the door, so I went ahead of the next group and tracked 'til pull time. All was going well, coming down right on target, when at about 200' I remembered I weighed about 25lbs. more than I did last time under a round main. I don't know what made more noise, me hitting the ground or everybody going "Oooh!" at the same time. The PLF is my friend. Cheers, Jon S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites murrays 0 #32 March 21, 2005 Here you go.... Also, ask Don G. to see the Prairie Skymasters year end video to see what looks like from underneath and how not to land a Dactyl...by yours truly.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites packerboy 3 #33 March 21, 2005 Was that your Paradactyl that Angus jumped in Gan last year? That birdman suit looks pretty familiar too! . -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites murrays 0 #34 March 22, 2005 No....the Dactyl we both jumped is Tom's...and is out at the Gan dz just waiting for you to take it up for a skydive Trevor !! I was out at Gan for the Labour Day weekend. Tom loaned it to me earlier in the year and I brought it back with me when I came out. I remember talking to you but you were definitely busy packin' all weekend!!-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #35 March 28, 2005 Quotehave you ever tried to find a replacement ripcord for old gear lost my ripcord to my "mini system" last year after i off airport landing and it tok me a while to find a new one, finnaly i "called ralph" and got one... gona have another made just incase i ever lose the onei have now..... my goal for this year is to stand up a landing. got about 10 jus on my mark 1 and the last one i onlywent down to one knee, now i'm 3000ft lower in filed elevationand am planing on loosing a couple pounds, should be much softer!!! ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yarpos 4 #36 March 28, 2005 Hi used to have (olden days ) a comp PC , which was a pig of a thing which gave me hard landings and regularly opened with the front wrapped around the centre lines. Turned very quick and flat and was great for its intended use (which was not lowering 190lb guys to the ground comfortably). A PC MK1 in contrast gave soft landing from sea level to 3000ft if there was any breeze. I used the rear risers thing all the time but didnt beleive it flared anything; it just helped transition the weight from suspended to legs and then a little bit in the arms. A nice canopy all round , and if you worked at it , you could get it into a surpisingly small bag :-) have fun Steveregards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites stratostar 5 #37 March 28, 2005 Call jumpshack and talk to Nancy if you need to get one custom made. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wingnut 0 #38 March 31, 2005 QuoteCall jumpshack and talk to Nancy if you need to get one custom made that's my plan, need to call them up and have em make me an extra dbag and pilot chute, and riser set up anyways....(for my modern sport rig) ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RogerRamjet 0 #39 April 1, 2005 QuoteHi used to have (olden days ) a comp PC , which was a pig of a thing which gave me hard landings and regularly opened with the front wrapped around the centre lines. Turned very quick and flat and was great for its intended use (which was not lowering 190lb guys to the ground comfortably). A PC MK1 in contrast gave soft landing from sea level to 3000ft if there was any breeze. I used the rear risers thing all the time but didnt beleive it flared anything; it just helped transition the weight from suspended to legs and then a little bit in the arms. A nice canopy all round , and if you worked at it , you could get it into a surpisingly small bag :-) have fun Steve Yeah, I remember Steve Fugleburg packing his PC into a very small bag for his cut down pig rig. After he flaked it, he would roll it as tight as he could and then s-fold it into the bag. Only thing was, it didn't always unroll very well. I think he has my record for the most saves as I packed his reserve at least 7 times because of that packing method (3 times on one day). He eventually moved on to a more reliable setup.... I don't remember ever falling down under a PC or Papillon, but then again I only weighed 135lbs back then My main for the first 350 jumps was a 28 foot C-9 "cheapo" that I put a pull down center line on. I regularly stood it up as well. Once I got my Strato-Star, I could easily land on one foot if there was any wind at all. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. 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murrays 0 #32 March 21, 2005 Here you go.... Also, ask Don G. to see the Prairie Skymasters year end video to see what looks like from underneath and how not to land a Dactyl...by yours truly.-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
packerboy 3 #33 March 21, 2005 Was that your Paradactyl that Angus jumped in Gan last year? That birdman suit looks pretty familiar too! . -------------------------------------------------- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. ~ Thomas Jefferson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
murrays 0 #34 March 22, 2005 No....the Dactyl we both jumped is Tom's...and is out at the Gan dz just waiting for you to take it up for a skydive Trevor !! I was out at Gan for the Labour Day weekend. Tom loaned it to me earlier in the year and I brought it back with me when I came out. I remember talking to you but you were definitely busy packin' all weekend!!-- Murray "No tyranny is so irksome as petty tyranny: the officious demands of policemen, government clerks, and electromechanical gadgets." - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #35 March 28, 2005 Quotehave you ever tried to find a replacement ripcord for old gear lost my ripcord to my "mini system" last year after i off airport landing and it tok me a while to find a new one, finnaly i "called ralph" and got one... gona have another made just incase i ever lose the onei have now..... my goal for this year is to stand up a landing. got about 10 jus on my mark 1 and the last one i onlywent down to one knee, now i'm 3000ft lower in filed elevationand am planing on loosing a couple pounds, should be much softer!!! ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yarpos 4 #36 March 28, 2005 Hi used to have (olden days ) a comp PC , which was a pig of a thing which gave me hard landings and regularly opened with the front wrapped around the centre lines. Turned very quick and flat and was great for its intended use (which was not lowering 190lb guys to the ground comfortably). A PC MK1 in contrast gave soft landing from sea level to 3000ft if there was any breeze. I used the rear risers thing all the time but didnt beleive it flared anything; it just helped transition the weight from suspended to legs and then a little bit in the arms. A nice canopy all round , and if you worked at it , you could get it into a surpisingly small bag :-) have fun Steveregards, Steve the older I get...the better I was Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stratostar 5 #37 March 28, 2005 Call jumpshack and talk to Nancy if you need to get one custom made. ~you can't pay for kids schoolin' with love of skydiving! ~ Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wingnut 0 #38 March 31, 2005 QuoteCall jumpshack and talk to Nancy if you need to get one custom made that's my plan, need to call them up and have em make me an extra dbag and pilot chute, and riser set up anyways....(for my modern sport rig) ______________________________________ "i have no reader's digest version" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerRamjet 0 #39 April 1, 2005 QuoteHi used to have (olden days ) a comp PC , which was a pig of a thing which gave me hard landings and regularly opened with the front wrapped around the centre lines. Turned very quick and flat and was great for its intended use (which was not lowering 190lb guys to the ground comfortably). A PC MK1 in contrast gave soft landing from sea level to 3000ft if there was any breeze. I used the rear risers thing all the time but didnt beleive it flared anything; it just helped transition the weight from suspended to legs and then a little bit in the arms. A nice canopy all round , and if you worked at it , you could get it into a surpisingly small bag :-) have fun Steve Yeah, I remember Steve Fugleburg packing his PC into a very small bag for his cut down pig rig. After he flaked it, he would roll it as tight as he could and then s-fold it into the bag. Only thing was, it didn't always unroll very well. I think he has my record for the most saves as I packed his reserve at least 7 times because of that packing method (3 times on one day). He eventually moved on to a more reliable setup.... I don't remember ever falling down under a PC or Papillon, but then again I only weighed 135lbs back then My main for the first 350 jumps was a 28 foot C-9 "cheapo" that I put a pull down center line on. I regularly stood it up as well. Once I got my Strato-Star, I could easily land on one foot if there was any wind at all. ----------------------- Roger "Ramjet" Clark FB# 271, SCR 3245, SCS 1519 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
