DanglesOZQld 0 #26 January 23, 2005 Mmm - just reminds you that the dangers of our sport are still out there. One thing I used to do was reach slightly and put a lot of pressure on both risers (left) as the Tandem canopy was opening until I reached a little too high and line twists demonstrated how STUUPID I was doing this if I had to get off the main. There are a lot of things you may or may not do in this sport that will make it more dangerous. Even the pros get it wrong sometimes - basically no one is bullet proof and we should be scrutinising what we do on EVERY jump. You may just save a life of someone u know or even your own! -BSBD!! -Dangles. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DanglesOZQld 0 #27 January 23, 2005 And more to the point of the topic PLEASE make sure the gloves you wear are approved by the dzso/safety dude as there are some out there that can be a problem (and I have personally seen as so) in the past because they are too loose a fit around your hand and/or fingers. Loose gloves in my country (Australia) have on more than one occasion had tragic outcomes in certain situations. You are trained and used to certain touch/sensory movements and gloves can and do deaden these to some extent. Just something else to throw into the fire. To the original poster, glad things worked out in the end dude!!! -BSBD! -Dangles. "A Scar is just a Tattoo with a story!!!" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tdog 0 #28 January 23, 2005 QuoteHe also said that they have velco tabs for stowing the excess line too... Does this really work/help with a problem like this? Jen After my "first finger incident" (packed by someone else on real nice new gear) - I now look before I grab and assume the worst, hope for the best. Never happened again once I stopped grabbing the toggles by brail and started grabbing them by sight. I even changed the angle in which I grab the toggles so I can see all my fingers and know they are clear of all lines. I think the solution is to look, regardless of the gear. I did an informal poll of friends. Everyone seems to have gotten their finger caught at least once early on and fixed the problem by looking. No one has said, “my gear prevents it.” Perhaps this shows that training could improve on this one little detail. But, it is probably like the drain plug on a boat… When my dad purchased his boat, the dealer said, “you will only forget the drain plug once.” My dad and I said, “we will never forget it.” We forgot it once… It was 50 degree water I gotta jump in. The one other toggle/glove experience that I learned a few years ago under a paraglider... Look at your hands before landing and make sure you are grabbing both toggles correctly and symmetrically. This came after dropping a toggle on landing and feeling the pain for days. Again, I was told this in ground school, but it did not sink in until I had first hand experience. With gloves it is hard to tell if you don’t have a good grip. I saved my ass yesterday by doing this - my hands were sloppy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyangel2 2 #29 January 23, 2005 Jen, in my experience even with the excess line tucked in some where, I still got a finger caught in the line. I have learned to just pay attention when I'm grabbing the stirring toggles, making sure all my fingers are clear and I have my fingers set in the toggles correct. The few times I did get my fingers caught in the brake line, is when I wasn't paying attention and just reached for the toggles. It's like doing your emergency procedures, look at what you are grabbing.May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usskydiver 0 #30 January 23, 2005 I do not like stowing under the bottom toggle tab. I really like what SunPath and RWS (I think) is doing. A strip of elastic sewn across the front of the rear riser is simple and very clean. Just my thoughts.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #31 January 23, 2005 QuoteWhy dont you carry a hook knife???? Was not me....I have one. But, there are several folks that don't...."No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
