Jib 0 #1 December 11, 2004 I just looked at the winds aloft for tomorrow and it looks like they're going to howl. So, how much wind speed (drift) is too much? -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #2 December 11, 2004 Does'nt matter. As long as the winds aloft are slower then the plane is flying and its making headway its all good. What matters are the wind speeds closer to the ground. Around 2k is where I would look. I was on a load last year with the uppers at about 45-50 knots and we ended up spotting 1.5 miles from the DZ and were too close with the freefall drift. Next load we took it out another 1/4 mile. The winds at 2k were about 20 knots and the ground speeds were about 18 mph so it was'nt too bad at all. But got a huge amount of drift. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimemerson 7 #3 December 11, 2004 I think it can be a thousand mph before anyone would care. At 12k that is. Down here where we land it should be a tad less, though, double digits at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #4 December 11, 2004 QuoteAs long as the winds aloft are slower then the plane is flying and its making headway its all good. Why limit yourself? Your pilot can't back down jump run? Shoot......what he doesn't have a rear view mirror? Tell him to just throw his right arm over the back of the copilot's seat, and look out the rear door. Nadda problem. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #5 December 11, 2004 Tailgate... sure, Otter, too many people get in the way. Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 December 11, 2004 Get a set of these.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 December 11, 2004 While it's true that for freefall it doesn't matter as long as the spot is ok, you might want to give some consideration to what would happen to the canopies if you had to cutaway. So, full altitude CRW in 60 knot winds might not be the brightest idea.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bch7773 0 #8 December 11, 2004 one day we had a 80 mph wind at 10k. We wanted to a cross country, but unfortionately we also had a 30 mph crosswind on the runway so no go. MB 3528, RB 1182 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #9 December 11, 2004 I've done lots of CRW with 50 knot uppers :-) I do tend to go 3-4 miles long but what the hey :-) I even make the airport well over 50% of the time ! W Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CSpenceFLY 1 #10 December 11, 2004 We had winds of about 65kts at altitude in Andrews,NC. when the RoamingDZ was there in Oct.We were keeping up with the cars on the highway in freefall. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #11 December 11, 2004 Uppers don't matter. Hell, today from 6-12k the uppers were doing just under 60 knots. We didn't care, we just had to spot well and we go a shitload of drift. If you're a good spoter, uppers don't matter, as long as you spot for them...(sorry robert).--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #12 December 11, 2004 QuoteUppers don't matter. Hell, today from 6-12k the uppers were doing just under 60 knots. We didn't care, we just had to spot well and we go a shitload of drift. If you're a good spoter, uppers don't matter, as long as you spot for them...(sorry robert). Just remember to leave adequate spacing between groups...... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 December 11, 2004 Now that funny JP. I can see our pilot sticking his head out the window looking backwards to ensure the spot too. BTW, has the FAA already approved those for use on an Otter or do we need to get the ball rolling on the paperwork for them?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoym 0 #14 December 11, 2004 I was on one load this last summer where I was last out of the Porter with a Tandem. I checked the spot and it was okay but a bit on the short side. I was in the door waiting for the plane to go further. The pilot was giving me that look, you know, "let's go". I was still waiting to get farther accross the DZ but it wasn't happening and the Pilot was REALLY giving me that Look! "Let's Go". During this time of 'communicating' with the pilot, he realized something and we talked about it on the ground later. The moving map on his GPS had done a 180 and the plane (while it was flying forward through the sky), it was actually flying backwards over the ground. We talked about it and switched to a crosswind jump run upwind of the airport. On that day, jump run worked much better that way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #15 December 11, 2004 Quote We had winds of about 65kts at altitude in Andrews,NC. when the RoamingDZ was there in Oct.We were keeping up with the cars on the highway in freefall. reminds me of one of my favorite cross country stories ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #16 December 11, 2004 Thanks for finding somethnig to make me smile on a Friday night JP Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #17 December 11, 2004 I think "full stop landing" was the best part! Love ya Chris, wherever you are........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #18 December 11, 2004 Thanks...I'll be grinnin' about this today under canopyMy reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,106 #19 December 11, 2004 QuoteQuote We had winds of about 65kts at altitude in Andrews,NC. when the RoamingDZ was there in Oct.We were keeping up with the cars on the highway in freefall. reminds me of one of my favorite cross country stories I should have taken a radio on a X-country jump 2 years ago. The uppers were around 50kt out of the west, and we exited over Lasalle, IL, to fly back 12 miles to Skydive Chicago. About 1/2 way back a 737 flew right underneath us.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jib 0 #20 December 11, 2004 that's great!! -------------------------------------------------- the depth of his depravity sickens me. -- Jerry Falwell, People v. Larry Flynt Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
selbbub78 0 #21 December 11, 2004 I've definitly done crew in 55 to 60 winds at altitude. There's no limit, just as long as the winds lower are good! That's all I worry about! crew skies,"Women fake orgasms - men fake whole relationships" – Sharon Stone "The world is my dropzone" (wise crewdog quote) "The light dims, until full darkness pierces into the world."-KDM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinseivLP2 0 #22 December 12, 2004 Have fun with it. I have done a 23 mile cross county from 14k with some howling uppers. I think it was around 70 knots at 12k. Of course that was back in the day before I knew any better. (It's not that fun landing in the downtown area town with 32 jumps and 20+mph ground winds) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #23 December 12, 2004 I'm not saying you can't do CRW in 60 knot uppers, I'm saying you might wanna think about where the canopies are going to end up if you have to cutaway.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faulknerwn 38 #24 December 12, 2004 I live in Texas. The answer to where the canopies would land are: a. A farmer's field b. A farmer's field c. A farmer's field or d. A farmer's field with a big bull... Our odds are good out here :-) And definitely I would never cutaway a mal that high. and we mainly do only small-way CRW (2-3-4 ways) so we practically never have a CRW wrap.... W Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #25 December 12, 2004 40 knot uppers and a bad spot on the first load of the day cost me a broken femur. Don't be a wind dummy.. Very few outs at SSCI hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
