katzurki 0 #1 November 21, 2004 Does anyone happen to know of a video showing someone landing using double front riser approach, at a 1.2-1.4 WL? Thanks :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatflying 0 #2 November 21, 2004 thats sounds interesting. lets see Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
linestretch 0 #3 November 22, 2004 watched a guy flair with both front risers. He got a helo ride out of it...plus the femur rod.my pics & stuff! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #4 November 22, 2004 I got one around somewhere.....A few CReW dawgs from Perris on Lightnings......I'm sure the W/L are under there abouts 1.2-1.4 Give me a day or so and I'll hunt it out.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brits17 0 #5 November 22, 2004 You're into carnage huh? _______________________ aerialkinetics.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingbunky 3 #6 November 22, 2004 a guy at our dz did that this fall. didn't work out all that well, broke an ankle and fractured vertabrae i believe. there is video, but i don't have it. i think it'll make the year end."Hang on a sec, the young'uns are throwin' beer cans at a golf cart." MB4252 TDS699 killing threads since 2001 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #7 November 22, 2004 Quotea guy at our dz did that this fall. didn't work out all that well, broke an ankle and fractured vertabrae i believe. there is video, but i don't have it. i think it'll make the year end. I don't think this was what TS was asking for, he was talking about the approach, not landing with double fronts. If you want the video for educational reasons, it really won't help you that much, ask one of the experienced canopy pilots at your dz about this. You will learn a lot more that way.. Iwan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
katzurki 0 #8 November 22, 2004 No carnage please, I've had my share this year :\ I am just stuck at home for at least 4 more months, can't really go and ask someone (and when I did, this one time, all they told me was "sink risers a few inches. wait till you are at 30 ft. let go. wait. flare.", not much in way of advice; I need to ask somebody else), so I wanted to see how it's done for myself, but looks like I chose a somewhat poor wording. :\ Quote I got one around somewhere.....A few CReW dawgs from Perris on Lightnings......I'm sure the W/L are under there abouts 1.2-1.4 Give me a day or so and I'll hunt it out.... Oi... I'll be much obliged. A traditional, safe double front riser approach and toggle flare :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vdschoor 0 #9 November 22, 2004 QuoteNo carnage please, I've had my share this year :\ I am just stuck at home for at least 4 more months, can't really go and ask someone (and when I did, this one time, all they told me was "sink risers a few inches. wait till you are at 30 ft. let go. wait. flare.", not much in way of advice; I need to ask somebody else), so I wanted to see how it's done for myself, but looks like I chose a somewhat poor wording. :\ The first thing you want to try is all of this up high, see how much your canopy starts diving, how much altitude you loose and then start using this on your approaches. I don't like the advice of holding on to them to about 30ft and then let go and flare. I've gone "whale watching" (coming out waaay too high) a lot of times and that's fine, I'm slowly working my way down and now I am pretty consistent on my approaches I know where I need to turn (I do 90s now) and where to let up. I suggest you do the same maybe let go at 50ft the first time, then bring it down further etc. Try to let the canopy recover, if you have to switch between front risers and your toggles immediately, you're too low. Like I said earlier, have some experienced canopy pilots watch your landings and have them advise you on what to do. Also, you're only at 47 jumps, which I think is a little early to be starting on front riser approaches, but that's a different story.. Right now it's more important to get good at accuracy, make sure you can land in the same spot over and over again, learn flat turns (at altitude) etc... BillVon has a long list of things that I would recommend you working on first, before starting to think about front riser approaches Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zoter 0 #10 November 22, 2004 My apologies......I had some footage but must have deleted it off my HD in the last cleanup, cant find it.....sorry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilotdave 0 #11 November 24, 2004 Hard to see much of anything from this video, and I won't even think about commenting on whether or not it was done properly, but here's a really boring video of a double front riser approach: http://www.skydivingmovies.com/ver2/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=154 Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mark135 0 #12 November 25, 2004 QuoteOi... I'll be much obliged. A traditional, safe double front riser approach and toggle flare :) I use this type of approach every time, It's not safe but there is more margin of error than a riser turn. Again not sure why you are out for 4 months but talk to the ppl at your dz when you do get back. im sure they will give you advise on how to do it and that you need more experiance under your belt before doing it._______________ "It seemed like a good idea at the time" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
