RANT AND RAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dgskydive 0]

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Take it easy Dom it could just be some of the boys back in the stock room crank calling you...... again.

I only wish that was the case Glen.

Dom

[bodypilot1 0]

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In my case, it was okay

Thats your opinion....little do they know.



See ya in Florida




Be safe
Ed

www.WestCoastWingsuits.com
www.PrecisionSkydiving.com

[genoyamamoto 0]

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One of the problems here is that new jumpers hear "you have to ask questions and keep learning!"

Sooo true. I started jumping a year ago and remember not knowing anything about gear. I just went with whatever people suggested. Didn't really trust the local gear dealer at first (it's a built-in defense mechanism to not trust people selling stuff). I found dropzone.com the night after my first skydive. It'd be great to have a dealer-review or some other resource available to people that visit this site.

Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me
Feel the hate...
Photos here

[VectorBoy 0]

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Take it easy Dom it could just be some of the boys back in the stock room crank calling you...... again.

I only wish that was the case Glen.

Well I'm tellin you to relax Dom. We are all going to die, some of us will just be dead with a cooler canopy than the other guy. You really should think about that . Glen

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I suppose I've never had a problem with ralphin all over my keyboard-

because I talked with my rigger, and others with gear I was interested in, took time to get information everywhere I could--before doing the ordering (knowing exactly what I wanted to order)........and just calling that order in.

Also- was fortunate everything I ordered was "brand new" still sealed in the bag. Now I've read this thread- I will definately change who I make that call to--thanx.

SMiles

[jumpwally 0]

Hey Dom,,Don't sweat it...make the call to the mftg guys, tell them how you feel,,you just don't have to make it public on here who the idiot is,,,calling the mftg guys is the right thing to do ,public blasting is not,, wally

smile, be nice, enjoy life
FB # - 1083

[GravityGirl 0]

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One of the problems here is that new jumpers hear "you have to ask questions and keep learning!"

Sooo true. I started jumping a year ago and remember not knowing anything about gear. I just went with whatever people suggested. Didn't really trust the local gear dealer at first (it's a built-in defense mechanism to not trust people selling stuff). I found dropzone.com the night after my first skydive. It'd be great to have a dealer-review or some other resource available to people that visit this site.

So. Do you trust me now Geno?

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Peace and Blue Skies!
Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear!

[airtwardo 7]

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The only way we can be 100% sure would be to have some sort of license for different canopy sizes and wingloadings.

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That's a good and fair suggestion...

Heck, you can't buy AIR without a license
if you want to scuba dive!

It could be incorporated into the current license
requirements and qualifications.

With the "PRO" Rating, you have to qualify on a
certain canopy type and size to be able to use it
on a demo....the quals are listed there on your card.

Do something similar for wing loading on the
membership card, along with the other listed ratings.


"Sure I'll sell ya an 'Afterburner 69'...fax me your
membersip card...!"

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[Zep 0]

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Customer- "Hey, I really want a Stiletto 107!"
Dealer- "Sure. Send me a copy of your canopy rating card from the USPA and I will be happy to send you that canopy if you are so rated for it."

Ahh, a perfect world. Wouldn't that be nice.

I would second that idea in a flash and maybe a system for FF containers IE:- if the container isn't FF
aproved by the countrys sporting authority (USPA, BPA, FENDA and so on) you don't FF

Not an original idea but a great idea all the same

Gone fishing

[genoyamamoto 0]

Of Course! I let you pick the colors for my new jumpsuit didn't I?

Gotta go... plaything needs to spank me
Feel the hate...
Photos here

[GravityGirl 0]

Shhhhh. I don't need everyone to know that I'm responsible. Let's see how it turns out first!

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Peace and Blue Skies!
Bonnie ==>Gravity Gear!

[flyangel2 2]

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Yeah, these sort of dealers make me want to RALPH all over my keyboard.

I was thinking the same thing!

May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view. May your mountains rise into and above the clouds. - Edward Abbey

[jumperconway 0]

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Yeah, these sort of dealers make me want to RALPH all over my keyboard.

I was thinking the same thing!

A friend bought a canopy from a pericular dealer and when it came in it had a big sign sewn on it "Call 'BARPH' " on it. The canopy was returned to him.

[BlindBrick 0]

I was sure wishing I had someone to CALL in March. I was ready to RALPH after a gear dealer failed to get me a container and totally ruined my plans to spend spring break jumping at Eloy.

-Blind

"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it."

[Kbone 0]

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I myself have probably sold something to someone that wasn't qualified for it.

Yah Dom,

I met a guy named Michael who said that you sold him a Crossfire2 129 sq. ft.

This puts him at about a 1.6 wingloading out the door. Did I mention that he had fewer than 150 jumps at the time?

Kbone

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I had the Honor of meeting "slick willy" at his DZ, Loft in Oregon. (names have been changed to protect my life).

Slick willy is one tough bird wouldn't try to cap him unless you go bear hunting and don't miss.

I've jumped on both coasts and slick willy is "well known" for his "outstanding" business practices. If you know what you want , and a low price, and your there to pay and take it with you you might luck out if he really has it.

If you want the real deal, the sqs, sunshine, and lots of other smaller places are a lot easier to deal with but you pay for what you get. Reputable,on time, service cost a little more.

Requiring canopy rateing etc may work but a kid can always get someone to buy a sixpack of beer for him.

BTW I've bought a couple of canopies and containers from Ralph, knew what I wanted picked them up so they were new and on time (unpacked) only problem got a piss blue reserve instead of classic white. The eye ball visit was a outstanding experience.

R.I.P.

BTW He told me he used to be a carpet salesman never said anything about used cars. I believe him really I do......

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Yah Dom,

I met a guy named Michael who said that you sold him a Crossfire2 129 sq. ft.

This puts him at about a 1.6 wingloading out the door. Did I mention that he had fewer than 150 jumps at the time?

Did you ask them if they truthfully represented their skill set, experience, and progression?

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You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously.

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I have to think theres a spin on your info....

If I was as unhappy as the sound of this post I'd be calling the alleged responsible party directly and make sure I had the facts, before I'd do what you did.

I personally have had excellent service from the dealer your eluding to, purchasing five complete rigs and several more canopies over the last 12 years. I wouldn't go anywhere else, because I know he backs up what he sells and he's been a reliable source of information as well. This sounds totally out of character if your talking about the Ralph I know.

You put it out there so you got my 2 cents

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I think you may be one of the exceptions to the rule. Meaning I know more people that did not like the services provided than I have fingers.
Kirk

[dgskydive 0]

Hey, I said I am not perfect, and I probably tried to talk him out of it. He may have told me different jump numbers. What is his last name and I will tell you exactly what the converstation was that we had. I keep notes on everything like that.

Give me his last name.

Dom

[dgskydive 0]

Well you are one of the few that has good things to say about this dealer.

[dgskydive 0]

For the record. I have found only one Mike that has bought has a Crossfire2 129 since I have been working at Sq1. He didn't buy it from me. He bought it from our DZ store. He is also a very good friend of our old manager at the DZ store. This was a supervised sale. Meaning that he demonstrated to our sales staff that he was competent at that wingloading.

This means that he insisted that he have that canopy and was watched demoing it by our staff and they thought he would be fine to handle the wingloading.

If this is the same Mike I think you are wrong about his jump numbers as well. THis guy posts here from time to time and I am going to see if he wants to put his .02 in here.

I also think that you tend to try and stir the pot a bit. Funny that you can't except PM's. WHy is that?

If you won't give up this Mike's last name then I call B.S. on your story.

Dom

[jumpwally 0]

Hammer'm Dom....

wally

smile, be nice, enjoy life
FB # - 1083

[dgskydive 0]

I'm not afraid to admit if I made a mistake. I can guarantee that it would have been an honest one.

I just think Kbone is full of it. He likes to stir the pot more then I do. The only problem is he lies when doing it (at least in this case). Notice he hasn't replied back still.

Dom

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Hey Dom

Anyone who knows you, would not think for a moment that you would have sold someone something totally wrong for them. I know you are an honest person who cares for jumpers and their safety.

Liz