Dizagirl 0 #1 November 11, 2004 hey guys i have a question... i know the general rule for lurking tandems is that you need to have around 500 jumps, etc but are there any official rules on lurking or jumping with an AFF lv 1 student? or is it just up to the dzo/instructors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AggieDave 6 #2 November 11, 2004 Why would someone want to lurk an AFF besides shooting video or evaluating the instructors? Pretty much everything else will be a huge distraction to the student, who is paying a lot of money to be on that skydive or the instructors who are trying to make sure the student does what is supposed to be done and pulls. If your friend is on AFF now, give it time and they'll have their license, then yall can go get jumps that area lot lower stress, involve less people and cost a hell of a lot less money. Very good question, I'm sure others may have the same question!--"When I die, may I be surrounded by scattered chrome and burning gasoline." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,990 #3 November 12, 2004 General rule at most places I've worked is "you can't do it." I wouldn't let anyone jump with me doing an AFF unless they were AFF rated themselves and had a good reason for doing so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizagirl 0 #4 November 12, 2004 QuoteWhy would someone want to lurk an AFF besides shooting video or evaluating the instructors? because my (nonskydiving) friend wants to make an aff jump and wondered if there was any way i could be a part of it... i said "probably not" (other than the plane ride) but it still made me wonder if there were any official rules on this... but awesome, thanks for the quick resposne! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites yoink 321 #5 November 12, 2004 I've thought the same thing a couple of times, but then I saw a vid of a really bad student. They were hauling ass across the sky and the videoman did well to run away. I'm not sure if I could got out of the way if I was in the area have after having seen the video... I have since decided it'd suck to have a collision with my mate, her instructors and myself on her AFF jumps and will let her go up on her own... there'll be loads of time to jump after she gets her A... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Tonto 1 #6 November 12, 2004 Other than video, the only people I let lurk an AFF dive are those booked on the AFFICC. They've sat in on the briefing, seen the dive, and sit in on the debrief. I usually give them a sector to go to after exit - and brief them so stay off the student's back at all times. "Fun" AFF lurks? Unless they're skilled, responsible and wearing video... No. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Remster 30 #7 November 12, 2004 Quotebecause my (nonskydiving) friend wants to make an aff jump and wondered if there was any way i could be a part of it... i said "probably not" (other than the plane ride) but it still made me wonder if there were any official rules on this... If you are there in the plane, and there when he/she lands, thats all they really will remember anyways. I've heard f many tandem passengers who never even see the camera man right in their faces....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites metalslug 36 #8 November 13, 2004 My Level 6 and 7 AFF was "lurked" by a FS videographer with about 350 jumps, holding a position I would estimate at about 50ft away, and slightly above me, close enough to shoot reasonable video. It's not a common practise at our DZ and I'm sure the CI would never allow such lurkers around a Level 1 student. -No 'mericans were harmed during the making of this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites chopchop 0 #9 November 14, 2004 What the other guys said.. Not only won't the student even know you are there but if they do notice, it'll probably be for a bad reason. AFF jumps are no place for lurkers. A skilled videot looking to get his rating in the near future, possibly.. otherwise.. there is no point in it.. and it adds another factor to an already unpredictable skydive. Have fun jumping with your friend after he / she is stable and aware.. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites RoysPlayThing 0 #10 November 16, 2004 Partay pooper! _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
yoink 321 #5 November 12, 2004 I've thought the same thing a couple of times, but then I saw a vid of a really bad student. They were hauling ass across the sky and the videoman did well to run away. I'm not sure if I could got out of the way if I was in the area have after having seen the video... I have since decided it'd suck to have a collision with my mate, her instructors and myself on her AFF jumps and will let her go up on her own... there'll be loads of time to jump after she gets her A... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tonto 1 #6 November 12, 2004 Other than video, the only people I let lurk an AFF dive are those booked on the AFFICC. They've sat in on the briefing, seen the dive, and sit in on the debrief. I usually give them a sector to go to after exit - and brief them so stay off the student's back at all times. "Fun" AFF lurks? Unless they're skilled, responsible and wearing video... No. tIt's the year of the Pig. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #7 November 12, 2004 Quotebecause my (nonskydiving) friend wants to make an aff jump and wondered if there was any way i could be a part of it... i said "probably not" (other than the plane ride) but it still made me wonder if there were any official rules on this... If you are there in the plane, and there when he/she lands, thats all they really will remember anyways. I've heard f many tandem passengers who never even see the camera man right in their faces....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #8 November 13, 2004 My Level 6 and 7 AFF was "lurked" by a FS videographer with about 350 jumps, holding a position I would estimate at about 50ft away, and slightly above me, close enough to shoot reasonable video. It's not a common practise at our DZ and I'm sure the CI would never allow such lurkers around a Level 1 student. -No 'mericans were harmed during the making of this post. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chopchop 0 #9 November 14, 2004 What the other guys said.. Not only won't the student even know you are there but if they do notice, it'll probably be for a bad reason. AFF jumps are no place for lurkers. A skilled videot looking to get his rating in the near future, possibly.. otherwise.. there is no point in it.. and it adds another factor to an already unpredictable skydive. Have fun jumping with your friend after he / she is stable and aware.. chopchop gotta go... Plaything needs a spanking.. Lotsa Pictures Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoysPlayThing 0 #10 November 16, 2004 Partay pooper! _______________________________________________ My mind is like a parachute...it functions only when open. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites