FrogNog 1 #26 February 20, 2004 QuoteI use a pair of scuba diving gloves... the aren't all that great. What does work, however, is just a pair of latex gloves as a liner. They are very thin, can go underneath any glove, and they really do keep your hands warmer. I also use thin scuba diving gloves (that I bought in a bicycle shop - go figure). I haven't tried them with a polypro liner, but without a liner they are COLD AS HELL (the outter circles, obviously) when it's colder than about -10 *C out. I just tell myself "If my hands hurt horribly, I probably don't have frostbite." The great thing is the palms are made from synthetic chamois, so the gloves are all over water-friendly (NOT waterproof) and I can feel handles great at all times. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #27 February 20, 2004 QuoteI wear Neumann gloves on every jump for two reasons: 1) I always have the same "feeling" when pull time comes 2) Protection from the ground if my landing is not perfect I have two pair of Neumann gloves, one summer weight and one winter weight. I expect to continue wearing gloves in the summer most of the time because of a third reason: 3) Gloves increase strength and durability of the hand in most inclement conditions. I'm thinking if I smack my hand into or scrape it on something, I'd like a glove to be my first line of defense. I've heard weird stuff happens during exit and sometimes in freefall (I assume FF). Also if I ever have to reach, grab, and pull on something with all my strength, fingers coated with performance gloves should be an asset. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrumpot 1 #28 February 20, 2004 QuoteThe neumann winter gloves just don't look very warm to me. Anyone use em in actual cold weather (as opposed to california cold weather)? I have used them in temps close to 0-f on the ground, meaning well BELOW 0 at 'tude with full comfort. Luckilly, my hands aren't all that sensitive to cold in the 1st place as most it seems, and the relative low time of exposure hasn't pushed over that threshold of tollerability at all. Now once, after an out-landing in the cold and walking back with them on, my hands THEN became entirely too cold (although still functional). I think that for the amount of protection needed relative to the length of exposure, they seem to work just fine.coitus non circum - Moab Stone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dterrick 0 #29 February 21, 2004 Dave: This coming from a Winterpegger (yup, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Great White North) - get some neoprene gloves (leather palms preferred) as used by whitewater / waterski types - another alternative would be Cross Country Ski gloves. Neoprene is windproof - great for freefall but your hands have a tendency to sweat a bit so an ultra light cotton lining not only adds warmth but also wicks moisture. X country ski gloves are designed for aerobic workouts in cold (but not windy) conditions. They are thicker and warmer (better for canopy time) but do not offer wind-proofedness (I love inventing words, ok!??!) for freefall. Here in our seasonal DZ (with cold months at either end... talking 0-10f at 9k) we're about evenly split on this issue. I wear neoprene with a liner in the cold and batting gloves at all other times. I've not not worn gloves since about jump #3, though I started with my bare-knuckle driving gloves. Dave Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend (Lennon/McCartney) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flyinggoose 0 #30 February 21, 2004 The coldest at altitude this year when I jumped was a nice -23F. Cotton liners and neoprene worked fine. No problems tossing. "Never waste a heartbeat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shadowplay 0 #31 February 21, 2004 I jumped at MOAB last weekend. Still being a student with no jumps under 60degress I brought a pair of Neuman knockoffs to jump with since the weather was going to be at best 40. By the time I was under canopy I noticed my hands were numb and I had trouble getting my fingers in the toggles, nothing major but it I had a little difficulty. By the time I landed, my hands were in severe pain and it took about six hours for the pain to go away. For a while I was worried about frostbite. So I was at the store the other night and I saw a pair of Burton Spring Board gloves. It made me thing THESE might be the gloves to go with, the had some padding but weren't bulky at all and seemed to feel pretty comfortable. Has anyone else seen these or jumped with them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elfanie 0 #32 February 21, 2004 QuoteIn Texas, the coldest I have jumped in to date was -4* at altitude, 40* on the ground, and my hands were sweating from these things. They are warm, I assure you that. I think it totally depends on the person... because I'm jumping in Arizona...and if the ground temp is >65, I FREEZE. Everyone at my DZ is constantly saying, "are you ok?" as I'm shivvering and my jaw shaking HOURS after getting on the ground. I just run really cold...and get chilled (core temp) really easily...and take forever to warm up. (see what losing 200 pounds will do to you ) I wear in 60* weather a fleece neck cover, long underwear, tshirt, jumpsuit, winter neumans, and helmet...and still I'm cold. (yes..I know I know..I'm a total cold-wimp) Even with winter newmans..my hands get very cold (I love warming them up on everyone's back. ) BUT...they are the best gloves I"ve ever tried and I love them... (I've also tried my surgical gloves underneith...still froze) One thing I was just told last weekend which I'm going to try...is to wait until on the plane and at altitude before putting gloves on... can't see how it can help..but heck, I'll try anything. -------------------------------------------- Elfanie My Skydiving Page Fly Safe - Soft Landings Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DShiznit 0 #33 February 21, 2004 The one jump I make (a few hours ago) without gloves, I slide on the ground..... Lesson learned! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #34 February 23, 2004 Anyone that tries a new glove set up can not only practice touch on the ground, but in freefall as well prior to pull time. Just a thought. I wear Neuman's and if it's really cold, I'll wear batting gloves beneath them as liners. Works fine. I've heard people wearing disposable latex gloves beneath their SD gloves as well. Might try that before cutting the fingers off your gloves... or after, for that matter.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoneRat 0 #35 February 23, 2004 I wear in 60* weather a fleece neck cover, long underwear, tshirt, jumpsuit, winter neumans, and helmet...and still I'm cold. (yes..I know I know..I'm a total cold-wimp) I bought some tight, nylon running leotards/ long sleeve runners undershirt at Academy Sports. Keeps the wind out well and adds almost zero bulk under the jumpsuit. Over that I'll wear thick cotton/ fleecy long underwear from Army surplus beneath my jumpsuit when it's really cold. Worked ok at -10°F at altitude not long ago.“There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophies.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skychic79 0 #36 March 3, 2004 I live in Florida so the coldest it gets here is high 40s. I tried batters gloves and couldn't get my fingers through my toggles. I got to have skin tight so i use golf gloves. An more experience jumper told me and it was less than $20. Go to sports authorithy. They have a variety, note that the gloves are sold separately and finding small right handed gloves are to find. The gloves have helped alot!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bojana 0 #37 March 4, 2004 Pccoder! Gloves for cross country skiing are great for winter jumps, very thin, warm and have leather on fingers.It has worked best for me.give it a try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites