propilot 0 #26 October 5, 2004 QuoteQuotedeployed @ 12, open by 10.5 Wow! That's one long, unusual snivel... Subterminal deployments usually take longer..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
davelepka 4 #27 October 5, 2004 ***Subterminal deployments usually take longer..... =================================== From a time standpoint, yes. From an altitude-used standpoint, no. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StevePhelps 0 #28 October 5, 2004 Bring a small cell phone with you in the jump suit -- It may come in handy for off DZ landings. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnMitchell 16 #29 October 5, 2004 Take a sandwich and money for the bus fare. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #30 October 5, 2004 QuoteSubterminal deployments usually take longer..... What Davelepka said... Subterminal deployments should burn less altitude than terminal ones. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
President 0 #31 October 5, 2004 whoa, thanks for the tips, guys ! Cell phone, sandwich and bus fare are especially valuable hints :) thanks ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWGemini 0 #32 October 5, 2004 The canopy I've been jumping is a bit out of trim and tends to have long snivels, usually around 1k, although I've never clocked it exactly. I know that at 12 I reached and at 10.5, the slider was down, all cells had inflated, and my airpsace was clear, things I check before I re-check my altitude. That canopy did snivel for about 2k once, however, and I came close to chopping it, but it may have just been a bad pack job that caused that one. Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #33 October 6, 2004 If you canopy takes 1,500ft to 2,000ft to deploy at terminal, I'd get it thoroughly checked, or systematically pull high... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #34 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteQuotedeployed @ 12, open by 10.5 Wow! That's one long, unusual snivel... Subterminal deployments usually take longer..... It wasn't subterminal though - he exited at 13.5. Which brings up a different question - high altitude terminal pulls are said to be rough on you and the gear. Should sunset h&p's be planned for a quick pull? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #35 October 6, 2004 QuoteShould sunset h&p's be planned for a quick pull? I may be wrong, but I believe that a H&P by definition is a quick pull (ie on the hill). If you wait until you are stable (belly to earth), I think that's a delayed pull, not a H&P. Nick "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWGemini 0 #36 October 6, 2004 Yes, my jump was NOT a h&p, I was advised by my instructors to wait a few seconds and get stable first. Also, I was under the impression I would be the last out, but there was a birdman who wanted me to go before him, I didn't want to give us both a bad spot by wasting time to explain the situation, so I just jumped and waited a few extra seconds to be sure he was nowhere near me before I pulled. But this is all off topic- shouldn't we be addressing the original poster's question? Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #37 October 6, 2004 If you are worried about giving a birdman a bad spot, you probably gave yourself a pretty bad one already Agreed, let's get back to topic... "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #38 October 6, 2004 QuoteQuoteShould sunset h&p's be planned for a quick pull? I may be wrong, but I believe that a H&P by definition is a quick pull (ie on the hill). If you wait until you are stable (belly to earth), I think that's a delayed pull, not a H&P. Ignoring the semantics then, if you plan to do a high altitude pull for sight seeing or canopy work, is it a bad idea, or somewhat not preferable, to go to terminal first? In the 7000+ range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwmike 0 #39 October 6, 2004 QuoteI would like to make several jumps pulling really high - basically right after exit and stabilization which is ~12,000 ft. Is there anything I should know about ? Like some air currents, airplanes, some extra rules applied etc etc.. Thank you very much in advance ! No big deal about high. I've done it for the last few thousand jumps. Seriously, talk this over with the good heads at your DZ. There are a number of considerations, including your experience level that need discussing. Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mccordia 74 #40 October 6, 2004 Just make sure you tell any birdman exiting after you if you plan to open high....so they can...ehh....avoid you (sorta:))JC FlyLikeBrick I'm an Athlete? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MWGemini 0 #41 October 7, 2004 Just so we can clarify the situation and keep this thread on topic, the birdman wanted me to go before him for several reasons, primarily the fact that the pilot was doing a special, higher altitude, high speed, long spot for him. I did not know this at the time, and I am unsure if he knew I was pulling high (everyone else on the load did, however, so I think the birdman did as well). After I exited and got stable, I did two full 360s looking for the birdman, and did a double wave off before pulling. I couldn't think of anything better to make sure we would not collide. If I was wrong in my judgement, please let me know (probably better to do it in PM or in another thread so we don't kill this one) so that I can make sure I don't do it again. Thanks, Mike Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
