321seeya 0 #1 September 25, 2004 I Look on my packing card after picking up my rig from the local loft, and in the box where the riggers number goes is the word...... PENDING..... Thats not the last thing I want to remember when I reaching for silver....hehe Even the new guys have to have a place to start, I guess Im the guinea Pig this time.... . BASE 3:16 - Even if you are about to land on a cop - DONT FORGET TO FLARE! Free the soul -- DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #2 September 25, 2004 It should at least have the number of the rigger supervising. Your card will not be honored at DZs that carefully check. Have it fixed, there really is no excuse for that.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #3 September 25, 2004 I would have paid for the repack using a check with the same wording!!!! ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
321seeya 0 #4 September 26, 2004 from what I gathered he has passed the riggers course and is able to repack on his own, just hasnt gotten his number yet... BASE 3:16 - Even if you are about to land on a cop - DONT FORGET TO FLARE! Free the soul -- DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #5 September 26, 2004 Quotefrom what I gathered he has passed the riggers course and is able to repack on his own, just hasnt gotten his number yet... Don't expect that to be good enough at other DZs.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #6 September 26, 2004 Hi 321, The guy probably just got his ticket; however, that does not mean that you are a "guinea pig!" Granted the guy may be a "new" rigger but that should mean that he's on top of all the new stuff out there. As for the "pending," the FAA can use your Social Security # for your license # or you can request a "separate" license#. The latter is the better idea as you don't have to sign your soc. sec. # to all your work!! There's enough identity theft out there. The new license # has to be processed by the FAA (remember, it's a bureaucracy!)and you will get it by SNAIL MAIL!!!!!!!!!!! So, that can take weeks!!!! Mine did!!!!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #7 September 26, 2004 You'd be surprised. It took one of the new riggers (ok about a year ago) I think 6 or 8 weeks to get his card sent to him. The rigger should have walked out of his exam with his temp number at least though.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #8 September 26, 2004 QuoteYou'd be surprised. It took one of the new riggers (ok about a year ago) I think 6 or 8 weeks to get his card sent to him. The rigger should have walked out of his exam with his temp number at least though. I just wouldn't expect other DZs that check carefully to be satisfied with such a packing card. Where am I wrong?People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #9 September 26, 2004 Because if he has passed his test from the DPRE and chooses not to use his SSN as his rigging seal number it could take weeks or even months to get his number assigned to him. In the mean time he does not need anyone supervising him, and most riggers would not just blindly walk up and sign off on another riggers pack job. His options are to put his SSN, put PENDING or not pack untill his card arrives in the mail.Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #10 September 26, 2004 Hi Zone, Unless they (the FAA) have changed their procedures, they do NOT issue a "Temporary" license # when a person passes a rigers test. All the info has to go to Oklahouma City FAA center office (unless they have moved it!!!!), there it gets processed and the rigger gets his license# on one of those official grey cards sent thru the SNAIL MAIL. The local GADO or FSDO does issue seal symbols though. So, you pass your test, get your seal symbol and sign pending to your pak jobs. BTW, you just got your ticket so now you have to send off for a riggers seal press (They have to be engraved so this takes time) meanwhile you squeeze your seals with flat pliers and scratch your seal symbol on them with a sharp needle or the like!!!! Is everybody good and scared now!!! I like the way everyone is wierding out over all this stuff. They need to go soak their socks in gasoline!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sundevil777 102 #11 September 26, 2004 Would you expect it to be accepted at DZs that actually pay attention to gear checks for visiting jumpers? I would not. I understand he doesn't need anyone to supervise.People are sick and tired of being told that ordinary and decent people are fed up in this country with being sick and tired. I’m certainly not, and I’m sick and tired of being told that I am Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #12 September 26, 2004 Quotefrom what I gathered he has passed the riggers course and is able to repack on his own, just hasnt gotten his number yet... Do you see the 3 digits next to the word pending? Those are the Seal Symbols he was issued by the DPRE when he passed his practical test. Sundevill777, A DZ does not have to accept the signature on any data card, but "pending" followed by the seal symbols is legal with the FAA. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhreeZone 20 #13 September 26, 2004 Sparky nailed what I was looking for. (Its been a long day and no beer). The rigger is issued his 3 letter combo on the spot from the DPRE once he passes the test, but he does'nt get his certificate for 6-8 weeks (if the FAA is working fast!) I did hear from one DPRE that until the certificate is recieved that PEnding, the SSN or blank was all legal provided the 3 letter code is there. Paragear took about a week for my riggers seal to come in last year if I remember right. FAA took a lot longer, granted they had to process Back, Seat and chest all at the same time for him though. I hear the FAA is now making rigger cards with photo's on them now, anyone have details on that?Yesterday is history And tomorrow is a mystery Parachutemanuals.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
f1shlips 2 #14 September 26, 2004 SSNs are no longer used on any airmen certificates due to privacy concerns. PENDING is fine. It took me about 3 months to get my card and the orignal seal "TXM" assigned to me was changed by the FAA to "TXW" about two months after I passed. As far as I know there's no mandate for photo airmen certificates, but there is a bill before the senate seeking to require such a thing.-- drop zone (drop'zone) n. An incestuous sesspool of broken people. -- Attributed to a whuffo girlfriend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjosparky 4 #15 September 26, 2004 One thing bothers me about the data card, the seal symbol appears to be three letters. For several years now they have been 2 letters and a number. They ran out of combinations possible with 3 letters. SparkyMy idea of a fair fight is clubbing baby seals Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 September 26, 2004 Don't know if this is the case, but some DPRE's request "blocks" of numbers be set aside for them to issue. Some FSDO's will do this. A DPRE I worked for would request a block of 10 or 12, the FSDO would issue them, and then when ever this DPRE ran a course and/or did testing, he'd issue a number and an engraved set of dies for a seal press to his canidate graduates. He threw in the dies as part of his testing fee. Maybe that's what happened in this case.....---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #17 September 26, 2004 You guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill. That reserve pack job is legal. Now get your ass out of an airplane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 September 26, 2004 Agreed.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
321seeya 0 #19 September 26, 2004 I will get my ass out of an airplane..AS SOON AS THIS F'Ing storm passes!... GEEZ!...This hurricane shit sucks! One question though..If I have to use my reserve and it is this riggers first save...Does he have to buy me beer??.. BASE 3:16 - Even if you are about to land on a cop - DONT FORGET TO FLARE! Free the soul -- DJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
towerrat 0 #20 September 26, 2004 the fellow in question here is one of the most meticulous people I know. I promise you that he is legit, and his work is good. He is also at a large loft owned by one of the best, a place I have no problem sending my gear to.Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #21 September 27, 2004 Hi Mike, When I got my Senior ticket in '71 in San Diego, I got two letters and a number. I've seen several similar since and know of a few guys who got three letters also. Maybe there are still some loose three letter combos left? I wonder who got "SEX" Right before I started jumping in Louisiana, 3 local jumpers went to the DPRE in New Iberia, La. to get their Senior tickets. The symbols were, "FUJ" "FUK" and "FUL". The jumpers were Ben Seal, Jr., Charlie LeBlanc and Neuman Gill. Charlie got the "FUK!!!"SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #22 September 27, 2004 QuoteYou'd be surprised. It took one of the new riggers (ok about a year ago) I think 6 or 8 weeks to get his card sent to him. For me it was 51 weeks and two days. It was this experience that taught me that it is never a good thing when the FAA classes your file as "Under Reconstruction". -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #23 September 27, 2004 QuoteHi Zone, Unless they (the FAA) have changed their procedures, they do NOT issue a "Temporary" license # when a person passes a rigers test. They do now -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #24 September 27, 2004 Hey Blind Baby, "File under reconstruction" and 51 weeks and 2 daze says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must have really pushed one of their "Lets see what we can do to fuck with this guy" buttons!!!!!!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlindBrick 0 #25 September 27, 2004 QuoteHey Blind Baby, "File under reconstruction" and 51 weeks and 2 daze says it all!!!!!!!!!!!!! You must have really pushed one of their "Lets see what we can do to fuck with this guy" buttons!!!!!!! Not me, other than a visit to the FSDO after my 20 repacks, I had no contact with the guys. The local FSDO didn't have a pre-approved list of seal numbers and that's where every thing got totally off track. That caused everyone that went through the class I did to have problems. -Blind"If you end up in an alligator's jaws, naked, you probably did something to deserve it." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
