sducoach 0 #51 February 20, 2004 "Angel", "Trust but verify". A great idea also is to have them correct the answer and intial the correction. This will not stop a lawyer from filing however, it makes it much more difficult to claim you have not "met the industry standards for training". Sent you a PM. Thank you... Blues, J.E.James 4:8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kris 0 #52 February 20, 2004 QuoteIn an emergancy, the most important thing is to get the hell out! This is true. Once the pilot says it's okay to bail, you should do your best to get out as quickly as possible. However, the problem with this incident is that the airplane was in a flat spin. They were trapped by centrifugal force in the back of the plane and were unable to move from where they were at.Sky, Muff Bro, Rodriguez Bro, and Bastion of Purity and Innocence!™ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #53 February 20, 2004 Just one question? What is happening with S/L and IAD student on forced exit???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #54 February 20, 2004 >What is happening with S/L and IAD student on forced exit???? SL - first jumper exits as normal (with SL attached) everyone else bails out on their reserve. Not sure about IAD; never took one up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #55 February 20, 2004 There can be more than one SL attached to the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masher 1 #56 February 20, 2004 When we take up S/L students, all off them are hooked up before the plane takes off. Haven't seen IAD in action, so...-- Arching is overrated - Marlies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salamander 0 #57 February 20, 2004 Quote>What is happening with S/L and IAD student on forced exit???? Not sure about IAD; never took one up. With IAD, the pilot chute factor comes into play. Do you have the pilot chute of a jumper in your hand? If not, they are told what is happening and what they are going to do (something like... this is an emergency, get out and go reserve now... see ya!). If you do have a pilot chute in your hand, do whatever you need to in order ensure survival of you and that student. Luckily, that hasn't happened to me, but I am led to believe the very aggressive, "your coming with me" approach probably works best. Of course, the situation will dictate the appropriate response. Oh, and remember to tell the other students what to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JKT 0 #58 February 20, 2004 What is IAD? I'm guessing it's Instructor activated deployment but I'd rather know for sure.----- Official 100 jump wonder Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phoenixlpr 0 #59 February 20, 2004 In IAD the PC is in a small elastic bag, holded by the instructor in the door and that bag is connected to the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 2,989 #60 February 20, 2004 >In IAD the PC is in a small elastic bag . . . Hmm! Every IAD exit I've seen has the instructor holding the pilot chute in his hand and launching it over the student's head when the student exits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riggerrob 643 #61 February 20, 2004 QuoteIn IAD the PC is in a small elastic bag, held by the instructor in the door and that bag is connected to the plane. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry dude, but you just described an awkward combination of Instructor Assisted Deployment and static-line that never gained popularity in North America. Far more popular is taking a stock student rig with a regular pilotchute packed in the BOC. On jumprun the instructor grabs the pilotchute and hangs on to it while the student exits. As soon as the student's fingers clear the plane, the instructor "places" the pilotchute - as low as he can - and the parachute deploys the same as a hop-and-pop. The pilotchute does not know who "placed" it in the wind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GroundZero 0 #62 February 22, 2004 QuoteEven in Fandango emergency procedures were taught. hehhehehehehe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites