diablopilot 2 #1 July 29, 2004 It's been a long time coming, but I am happy to say it's here. Congratulations to Ray, Phil, and Chris, I know they have worked long and hard on this project! Ray flew it himself from NZ, and did the 16.5 hour flight from Hawaii comfortably. Couple picturs, one refuling at a place called Pago-Pago And the other with his welcoming crew in Davis! They'll be flying Load 1 this weekend, sorry I'll miss it! See ya in Rantoul Ray!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #2 July 29, 2004 Is that the same PAC750 that will be at Rantoulio this year!!??=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #3 July 29, 2004 You got it. It will be kinda hard to miss don'tcha think?---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #4 July 29, 2004 Quote You got it. It will be kinda hard to miss don'tcha think? Harder than you think - It'll only be on the ground about 10 minutes for the entire convention!!!!!!=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #5 July 29, 2004 QuoteHarder than you think - It'll only be on the ground about 10 minutes for the entire convention!!!!!! It, like the other elevators, will get a well deserved rest overnight...Until Mr. Mullins gives everyone the morning wakeup call... ----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #6 July 29, 2004 QuoteIt, like the other elevators, will get a well deserved rest overnight... What? No night jumps? Bummer.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WFFC 1 #7 July 29, 2004 QuoteWhat? No night jumps? Bummer. Shhhh...still trying to see if that can be put together...----- ~~~Michael Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #8 July 29, 2004 Did they get a discount with that paint job? Sorry, I'll shut up now.....Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #9 July 29, 2004 Very sleek looking airplane...May it be well received at dropzones worldwide.... ..But.... it does look like the cabin might have a Low ceiling...... Is there good head room inside..? I notice the step outside the door is low,,, like on a Porter....Will Six Footers have to stoop over,,, while inside the plane???? Are there seats? or do all jumpers sit on the floor????? What is the aircrafts capacity???.......How many jumpers???/ and as long as I'm asking so many stupidquestions... ,,, what's the rate of climb, when loaded???? thanx.. jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #10 July 29, 2004 er... ok: yes there's a low ceiling, that does mean stooping, but there's plenty of room once sat down. There are also (a very cool feature) grab rails along the ceiling to assist you in getting up, (at least there were on the one I jumped - everyone loved this idea and wished more jump ships had them). I had no problem on the camera step - I'm 6'2". It was very comfortable and easy to use. Inside, yes you stoop - just like on virtually all mid-sized jump ships... is that that much of an issue? Capacity is 18 - climb rate fully loaded is something like 12 in 12... or there abouts, I forget but I'm sure someone will post a link to their site. Point is it's still nice and quick - very big engine see Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #11 July 29, 2004 Tell you what everyone - I've got some pics from the other weekend jumping one of these and some video of me exiting - I'll see if I can post it tonight. There's one good shot I can think of where I'm last out on a 10 way... that should give a shot of how big the interior is. The stereo's cool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites bigway 4 #12 July 29, 2004 congratulations!!!! the first one that left our country thought it would try swimming over. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #13 July 29, 2004 QuoteDid they get a discount with that paint job? Hey, wait a minute. Ain't you a Canadian? (shouts over his shoulder) "When did the Canuk's opinion start to matter?" Oh. I would have gone for an Orange and Black thing myself, but........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #14 July 29, 2004 sounds just great..... And there's nothin' wrong with "big engine". enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #15 July 29, 2004 Ok, no video as I forgot that I needed a firewire port when I built my new pc two days ago. So here's some pic's. These are a few frame grabs from a 3-way horny gorrila exit. You can see the tail passing well clear of Timmy's head. I guess the wide angle lens makes it appear much closer than it is mind... but I assure you it's miles away. And finally a ground shot to show the the body of the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #16 July 29, 2004 Love that floater bar!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 July 29, 2004 And here's a few general pics of the plane just for fun and a bit of an idea of the inside. (that red bar in the 4th pic by the way is the static line strong point) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #18 July 29, 2004 QuoteLove that floater bar! There's a matching one on the inside and a huge step outside, plus a second step for the camer guys (attached). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #19 July 29, 2004 What about that door, is it manual, or pilot controled? (Was an idea they had.)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #20 July 29, 2004 QuoteBut.... it does look like the cabin might have a Low ceiling...... Is there good head room inside..? I notice the step outside the door is low,,, like on a Porter....Will Six Footers have to stoop over,,, while inside the plane???? This might give you an idea of the dimensions... http://www.utilityaircraft.com/dwcomparisons.html---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #21 July 29, 2004 Manual, but very smoth with pulleys and shit. Other than the pulleys it was pretty much the same as the Otter doors you have at Perris (or most other skydive planes for that matter). Apparently cost 30k and they were bitching about what they'd do to you if you broke it. I'd have built em two for that if they'd asked. Maybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #22 July 29, 2004 The talk was of a door that could be closed for the pilot to have a faster decent rate after everyone was out.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #23 July 29, 2004 ..great,, thanks...This is a Large aircraft... seeing it in scale to other jump planes is very helpful... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #24 July 29, 2004 Sweet; glad to see it looks like they changed the cabin around a bit for skydiving. I was formerly of the mind that the only that was "made factory cool for skydiving" was the bolt-on stuff. Looks like a lot more sweat than I thought. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #25 July 29, 2004 QuoteMaybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Sure, as long as it "fails safe". In a power-out emergency that also indicates immediately dumping the jumpers, there needs to be a way to get the door open. Maybe one of those garage door things where you pull the handle and it disconnects. The problem I see is when the weight and maintenance cost of the door "features" cost more than the benefit created by allowing a quicker descent for the next load. I think it was on diverdriver.com that they pointed out the bulk of turnaround time improvement comes from efficiently flying up; flying down was the lesser part. An electric door isn't going to be weightless. (For that matter, I don't know what the pulley system weighs, either.) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. 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mr2mk1g 10 #11 July 29, 2004 Tell you what everyone - I've got some pics from the other weekend jumping one of these and some video of me exiting - I'll see if I can post it tonight. There's one good shot I can think of where I'm last out on a 10 way... that should give a shot of how big the interior is. The stereo's cool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bigway 4 #12 July 29, 2004 congratulations!!!! the first one that left our country thought it would try swimming over. .Karnage Krew Gear Store . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #13 July 29, 2004 QuoteDid they get a discount with that paint job? Hey, wait a minute. Ain't you a Canadian? (shouts over his shoulder) "When did the Canuk's opinion start to matter?" Oh. I would have gone for an Orange and Black thing myself, but........---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #14 July 29, 2004 sounds just great..... And there's nothin' wrong with "big engine". enjoy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #15 July 29, 2004 Ok, no video as I forgot that I needed a firewire port when I built my new pc two days ago. So here's some pic's. These are a few frame grabs from a 3-way horny gorrila exit. You can see the tail passing well clear of Timmy's head. I guess the wide angle lens makes it appear much closer than it is mind... but I assure you it's miles away. And finally a ground shot to show the the body of the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #16 July 29, 2004 Love that floater bar!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #17 July 29, 2004 And here's a few general pics of the plane just for fun and a bit of an idea of the inside. (that red bar in the 4th pic by the way is the static line strong point) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #18 July 29, 2004 QuoteLove that floater bar! There's a matching one on the inside and a huge step outside, plus a second step for the camer guys (attached). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #19 July 29, 2004 What about that door, is it manual, or pilot controled? (Was an idea they had.)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #20 July 29, 2004 QuoteBut.... it does look like the cabin might have a Low ceiling...... Is there good head room inside..? I notice the step outside the door is low,,, like on a Porter....Will Six Footers have to stoop over,,, while inside the plane???? This might give you an idea of the dimensions... http://www.utilityaircraft.com/dwcomparisons.html---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites mr2mk1g 10 #21 July 29, 2004 Manual, but very smoth with pulleys and shit. Other than the pulleys it was pretty much the same as the Otter doors you have at Perris (or most other skydive planes for that matter). Apparently cost 30k and they were bitching about what they'd do to you if you broke it. I'd have built em two for that if they'd asked. Maybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites diablopilot 2 #22 July 29, 2004 The talk was of a door that could be closed for the pilot to have a faster decent rate after everyone was out.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jimmytavino 16 #23 July 29, 2004 ..great,, thanks...This is a Large aircraft... seeing it in scale to other jump planes is very helpful... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #24 July 29, 2004 Sweet; glad to see it looks like they changed the cabin around a bit for skydiving. I was formerly of the mind that the only that was "made factory cool for skydiving" was the bolt-on stuff. Looks like a lot more sweat than I thought. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #25 July 29, 2004 QuoteMaybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Sure, as long as it "fails safe". In a power-out emergency that also indicates immediately dumping the jumpers, there needs to be a way to get the door open. Maybe one of those garage door things where you pull the handle and it disconnects. The problem I see is when the weight and maintenance cost of the door "features" cost more than the benefit created by allowing a quicker descent for the next load. I think it was on diverdriver.com that they pointed out the bulk of turnaround time improvement comes from efficiently flying up; flying down was the lesser part. An electric door isn't going to be weightless. (For that matter, I don't know what the pulley system weighs, either.) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
mr2mk1g 10 #15 July 29, 2004 Ok, no video as I forgot that I needed a firewire port when I built my new pc two days ago. So here's some pic's. These are a few frame grabs from a 3-way horny gorrila exit. You can see the tail passing well clear of Timmy's head. I guess the wide angle lens makes it appear much closer than it is mind... but I assure you it's miles away. And finally a ground shot to show the the body of the plane. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #16 July 29, 2004 Love that floater bar!---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #17 July 29, 2004 And here's a few general pics of the plane just for fun and a bit of an idea of the inside. (that red bar in the 4th pic by the way is the static line strong point) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #18 July 29, 2004 QuoteLove that floater bar! There's a matching one on the inside and a huge step outside, plus a second step for the camer guys (attached). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #19 July 29, 2004 What about that door, is it manual, or pilot controled? (Was an idea they had.)---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #20 July 29, 2004 QuoteBut.... it does look like the cabin might have a Low ceiling...... Is there good head room inside..? I notice the step outside the door is low,,, like on a Porter....Will Six Footers have to stoop over,,, while inside the plane???? This might give you an idea of the dimensions... http://www.utilityaircraft.com/dwcomparisons.html---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr2mk1g 10 #21 July 29, 2004 Manual, but very smoth with pulleys and shit. Other than the pulleys it was pretty much the same as the Otter doors you have at Perris (or most other skydive planes for that matter). Apparently cost 30k and they were bitching about what they'd do to you if you broke it. I'd have built em two for that if they'd asked. Maybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #22 July 29, 2004 The talk was of a door that could be closed for the pilot to have a faster decent rate after everyone was out.---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimmytavino 16 #23 July 29, 2004 ..great,, thanks...This is a Large aircraft... seeing it in scale to other jump planes is very helpful... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #24 July 29, 2004 Sweet; glad to see it looks like they changed the cabin around a bit for skydiving. I was formerly of the mind that the only that was "made factory cool for skydiving" was the bolt-on stuff. Looks like a lot more sweat than I thought. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites FrogNog 1 #25 July 29, 2004 QuoteMaybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Sure, as long as it "fails safe". In a power-out emergency that also indicates immediately dumping the jumpers, there needs to be a way to get the door open. Maybe one of those garage door things where you pull the handle and it disconnects. The problem I see is when the weight and maintenance cost of the door "features" cost more than the benefit created by allowing a quicker descent for the next load. I think it was on diverdriver.com that they pointed out the bulk of turnaround time improvement comes from efficiently flying up; flying down was the lesser part. An electric door isn't going to be weightless. (For that matter, I don't know what the pulley system weighs, either.) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
FrogNog 1 #24 July 29, 2004 Sweet; glad to see it looks like they changed the cabin around a bit for skydiving. I was formerly of the mind that the only that was "made factory cool for skydiving" was the bolt-on stuff. Looks like a lot more sweat than I thought. -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrogNog 1 #25 July 29, 2004 QuoteMaybe a powered door is an optional extra that we'll see on some planes and not others? Sure, as long as it "fails safe". In a power-out emergency that also indicates immediately dumping the jumpers, there needs to be a way to get the door open. Maybe one of those garage door things where you pull the handle and it disconnects. The problem I see is when the weight and maintenance cost of the door "features" cost more than the benefit created by allowing a quicker descent for the next load. I think it was on diverdriver.com that they pointed out the bulk of turnaround time improvement comes from efficiently flying up; flying down was the lesser part. An electric door isn't going to be weightless. (For that matter, I don't know what the pulley system weighs, either.) -=-=-=-=- Pull. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
